people

15 years 12 months ago

class is dismissed on the

class is dismissed on the dispossessed... ~ "Even if I knew the world were to end tomorrow, I would plant an olive tree today."-- Francis of Assisi

15 years 12 months ago

Great

Good one Chuck... Truth be it known in your words of wisdom. Love at ya Mona

barbsdad2003

15 years 12 months ago

Thanx ...

to both of you. Round and round she goes, as onsite abusers bully hereabouts. The site's totally corrupted at this point. And starting with the top. However, I've gotta say these aren't the first occasions the AEC's misbehaved. The site's integrity's thoroughly compromised. I'm about to say bye, probably permanently. Seems the decent thing to do. Chuck

15 years 12 months ago

Dearest Chuck, having been

Dearest Chuck, having been on line for the past 5 or so years, I've experienced the highest and lowest wo/man has to offer. I've been ambushed, betrayed and hurt to the point I withdrew. (Real life is no different!) Then I keep remembering: "All that it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing"....(Edmund Burke) I do what I can...and one of the things I can do is not to be so offended by others. It's all a learning experience. And sometimes the bigger picture is something I have yet to see. ~A "Even if I knew the world were to end tomorrow, I would plant an olive tree today."-- Francis of Assisi

15 years 12 months ago

Chuck

I have been on here only less then a year and I am also amazed at some similiarr actions and know that all should partake in the positivity of the site and leave the negative outside. It would be nice not to read all the backlashing continously going on day after day. Hang in there Chuck and let the winds drift the negatives away. Truly Mona xoxo

Arrow

15 years 12 months ago

I like the linked form

and have tried it myself with the topic of evil. There must be something about bad behavior which feels hopelessly cyclical and encourages this form. That aside, I hope you will not throw away us babies with the bathwater.

15 years 12 months ago

The AEC is composed of volunteers

And these people cannot be elected without the action of the site members. As for corruption, if anyone can list an incident where the AEC has violated it's charter and area of responsibility, you should take it to Andrew. AEC members are just folks from the community who are allowed to have their own opinions and foibles. That some expect these people to both sacrifice their time and then their freedom of speech is interesting. As for the poem, I like the message. It plays into my "I respect anyone who is competent in what they do" attitude. Since there is no indication of a critique level requested, I'll refrain from offering anything else. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

Marie-I-Be

15 years 11 months ago

violations

We can't report you to yourself with any success, and Andrew should have seen enough on his own by now to boot your ass out of here. Thus Chuck's understandable feelings of hopelessness for this once-pleasant place you have thoroughly poisoned. Proud Jonathan, with just a little sidekick help from a naive potty-mouth, has become a one-man show with apparently the ultimate say-so power.

barbsdad2003

15 years 11 months ago

Couldn't ...

agree more. Chuck

15 years 11 months ago

Chuck

You couldn't make less sense. But please try. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

15 years 11 months ago

Wrong, Marie

Every complaint is reviewed by the AEC. There are 5 members and if you bring a complaint and it is not reviewed, forward it to the trustees. Because all you are doing now is pretending outrage and it is childish. Shit or get of the pot Marie, or just continue whining. But the good news is that I nominated you for the AEC. Do you have the spine to stand for election and sacrifice your time and then listen as the uninformed and idiotic accuse you falsely when they are pouting because they want to break the rules for themselves and the people they like? I doubt it. Prove me wrong. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

little sidekick help from a naive potty-mouth

I take that as a direct attack, Marie. Kelsey

Marie-I-Be

15 years 11 months ago

I amend.

Make that: with a lot of sidekick help from a naive potty-mouth. Did you notice that Chuck agrees with me? People who once respected you very highly are beginning to see you in a newer/clearer/disappointing light---the one which you choose to shine upon yourself.

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

explain this disappointing light to me

please :) Kelsey

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

Also,

if so many have lost all respect for me, I'm sure you'll all vote against electing me into the AEC come June 28th. Or will you? I look forward to you all actually taking the initiative and doing something for once. A wise man (Dr. Seuss) once said "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." I stay true to my values, speak my mind, and use whatever words I want to, 'cause those who are offended by it don't matter. Ugly with Vulgarity and Proud of It, Kelsey

Marie-I-Be

15 years 11 months ago

"those who are offended by it don’t matter"

It's okay with me if I don't matter to you. But I can see that you are offended by my words, and you matter to me anyway, Kelsey. There is still time for you to choose differently. I cannot save you, but maybe you can save yourself.

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

oh so now you're trying to save me

from what, exactly? I'm only offended by the fact that you act like you're better than me, when that is in fact, as far from the truth as anything could ever be. Kelsey

15 years 11 months ago

Marie

thats condesending and god like of you trying to save something that is already thin on the ground ... and thats the young people men and woman who are not afraid to be themselves and to speak their minds ... damn I wish there were more of them ... I encourage my students to be whatever they want ... and its not for anyone else to judge them only the god they hold dear or their faith, or their lack of all the above we are all different I just wish we could all get along without this constant bickering its getting old and tiring where is the middle ground and is anyone looking for it ... I got a spot picked out but its useless unless others want to populate that place with peace and thats what we should all be aiming for kind regard Jayne-Chloe ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

I'm usually all for the middle ground, Jayne

but there is no compromising, no mature discussion, no middle ground with these people. They have to be right. There is no such thing as "truce" or "agree to disagree" or anything like that. All they know is "I'm better than you so go fuck yourself". But I will gladly go fuck myself; I'm the hottest piece of ass around! I'm done chatting with you, Marie. It's been fun sweetie. Kelsey

15 years 11 months ago

sadly I have had to go fuck

sadly I have had to go fuck myself in the last two days .. ive had it up to the back teeth ... and sadly huni I think you maybe right about the middle ground being the only one there is getting lonely love you JayCee x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")

Marie-I-Be

15 years 11 months ago

Jayne-Chloe

Why is it so difficult for people to read the English staring them right in the face? This is how the "bickering" is perpetuated. I said: I cannot save you, but maybe you can save yourself. Translation: I cannot save her, but maybe she can save herself. Nowhere do I imply that I am trying to save her. I specifically state that I cannot. That means I would not even try. I simply suggested to her that she might want to rethink her choices and thereby save herself. But Kelsey comes back with I am trying to save her and you come back with I am trying to save her. It's difficult to communicate when the receiver's filter/comprehension is corrupted. That's it. I'm going to bed. But I do still care. Good night.

15 years 11 months ago

But why does she need saving

But why does she need saving in the first place ?? just makes me sad Marie its destroying the site and no one seems to give a shit I was just saying cant we get the hell along ? but again my words are misconstrued JayCee ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

then I will reword my statement:

What do you want me to save myself from? What path of righteousness have I strayed from? Oh wait. I'm Heathen! There is no saving me! Kelsey

Marie-I-Be

15 years 11 months ago

Oh, so there's more.

I just read Kelsey's latest piece of self-deprecation. This is a young woman mingling with people twice and thrice her age in an online environment. Responsible adults would be more concerned about what some of these call-for-help behaviors represent, not encouraging her to continue unchecked. All children need guidance, no matter their intellect and social habits. There is a clear lack of appropriate counsel for this one, and anyone who does not see it is either blind or simply does not care.

15 years 11 months ago

there is a huge difference

there is a huge difference in helping a child or young adult in this case or silencing the child I am for voices to be heard loud and clear no matter their age because you dont agree with how Kelsey is ? doesnt mean she needs help and that young woman is one of the sharpest smartest and together young women I know sorry we cant agree Marie there is no fight I was trying to understand your statement and I am no further ahead .. no rancour just a search for something thats not here JayCee ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")

Marie-I-Be

15 years 11 months ago

Okay, then.

Good night again. :-)

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

LOL

You're funny. Quick, everyone give me attention! My daddy never loved me and now I'm starved for any kind of attention I can get. I talk about sex and bodily fluids and I need a spanking! Will you spank me? No not you, you! The sexy one over there with the whip and chains. Kelsey

Marie-I-Be

15 years 11 months ago

A spanking ...

... is not what you need. You know what you need, and I hope you find it, Kelsey.

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

I know what I need

and I've got it. I've got a roof over my head, friends and family (including internet family) that love me for who I am, art, an education, a bright future and all the booze, sex and rock n roll I could ever ask for. Is that what you wanted to hear? Because, in reality, you see, I'm a virgin with self-respect and strong morals who doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs, unlike most of my peers. That's why that last part I wrote was funny. Kelsey

15 years 11 months ago

Marie

I suspect Kelsey does know what she needs as she has already articulated it. You, however, do not have a clue what anyone needs. But pretend you are superior until it fills that hollow spot in your soul. I do pity you Marie, but not enough to stand by while you treat others badly in order to feel better about yourself. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

15 years 11 months ago

Marie

"I just read Kelsey’s latest piece of self-deprecation." Can you provide a quote for this because I am thinking the word does not mean what you think it means as I cannot find the example to which you allude. As far as "responsible adults" go, well, your judgment on the matter has proven to be flawed through your actions such as leveling baseless accusations, arrogantly and inaccurately claiming you are better that other folks, and a general pattern of hypocrisy to include your lecturing only those you do not like on spelling. It's rather sad to watch but entertaining as you paint yourself into a corner only to realise you are painting with a bucket of shit and then licking clean a path by first declaring it is fudge. You have a nice day and I would suggest a new toothbrush. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

Don't worry about me man

I've never had more fun than I've had with Marie. She's funny and silly. I like her. She plays the best games. Kelsey "In criticism I will be bold, and as sternly, absolutely just with friend and foe. From this purpose nothing shall turn me." -Edgar Allan Poe

15 years 11 months ago

Marie,

"It’s difficult to communicate when the receiver’s filter/comprehension is corrupted." So, when are you going to get yours repaired? --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

15 years 11 months ago

Marie,

"Why is it so difficult for people to read the English staring them right in the face?" Actually, you are, no surprise, wrong. The bickering started because you and others have fabricated accusations and are whining when you are called on them. I understand your positions: You are so much better than anyone else so why can we just understand you are here to tell us what to do and how to behave and why or why won't we listen to you? The problem is that your position is delusional and you are upset we have called you on it. General misunderstandings will always happen but you and others have decided there are certain people who must be removed from Neopoet and you have decided to use all of your energy and talent to make it happen. I hope you have a lot more energy than talent. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

15 years 11 months ago

Marie

Actually you are mistaken. This is no great surprise, but it is true. Remember when you declared you "had my number" right before you stomped away from the confrontation you had initiated? Well, since your commentary does not indicate a high degree of competence in the logic department, people can be amused when others fabricate positions and attribute them incorrectly and people can confront and challenge such actions. This does not mean they take offense. I mean if I were to accuse you of being a prostitute I am certain you and actual prostitutes would object, both for valid reasons, but the only folks who would probably be offended would be the actual prostitutes and honestly, I would not blame them. Toddle along dear, see you at the election. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

15 years 11 months ago

Marie

So, let me get this straight, anyone who agrees with me is a sidekick but anyone who agrees with you is a mature adult. Is that what you are saying Marie? As far as those "People who once respected you. . ." claptrap, well, that's bullshit and is no surprise. Typical passive aggressive behaviour from the incompetent. Claim special ability and knowledge and try to it as a crowbar and run away when confronted, normally with a "you just don't understand" whimper. The sad fact Marie is that you and the other people who are most loudly complaining are the biggest problem. You are the intolerant folks trying to force everyone into your twisted vision of everything, for their own good. It's sad, but expected and I am not disappointed because just as I cannot be disappointed in photosynthesis, I cannot be disappointed in the attacks from those incompetent to construct a coherent argument. I'm not saying I am better than you Marie, you are, and I am just about ready to agree with you. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

No, I like being your sidekick

and Marie can only speak for herself, unless whoever else she was referring to called her and told her to tell me that they don't respect me anymore so that they wouldn't have to. Kelsey "In criticism I will be bold, and as sternly, absolutely just with friend and foe. From this purpose nothing shall turn me." -Edgar Allan Poe

Marie-I-Be

15 years 11 months ago

respectful

Chuck, this is perfection. I feel that I am intermingling with a beautifully winding strand of DNA. You convey your important message here with respect and dignity. I love your way (here and elsewhere) of respecting others' poetry styles and skills while quietly objecting to their blatant intolerances of same. And you present that message without need for noneuphemistic references to excrement, man's life-seed, and ladies' periods. I declare you this site's WORDMASTER!

15 years 11 months ago

And your declarations

Are just as valuable as your disdain. Really Marie, it's sad to see you again latching on to baseless accusations. Remember how well they worked out the last time? Probably not, your posts do not indicate they are the product of anything but pique. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

15 years 11 months ago

Marie

Marie Please can we go forth from this page and settle our differences in silence so this fighting will not continue, after all it is Chucks poem and I am not telling you what to do but for the good of the site can we end this and on other pages as well. Don't be angry at me for at least asking of all of you. I thank you for considering. Everyone has had enough okay? Mona

Marie-I-Be

15 years 11 months ago

Mona

If you are not telling me what to do, I wonder why I feel so strongly that you are telling me what to do. And your plea that we "settle our differences in silence" and your comment that "everyone has had enough" do not agree with your remarks below re allowing you to speak your mind and allowing everyone else to do the same. You are of course correct that this is Chuck's page, and I think it is presumptuous of you to try to control the interactions of others using his ownership (so to speak) of his page as your excuse. If Chuck wants to interrupt on this page, he can do so himself, can't he! Hell, if he doesn't like this page, he can delete it! It's my belief (okay, knowledge) that he will do neither. I ended my comments to others on this page after 2:00 in the morning on the 17th. I didn't even look at the additional comments until a few minutes ago. I had/have no intention of answering anyone else further on this page, a decision made without influence from another. It's funny how people like to tell me to shut up long after I've shut up! Nutshell: If you want to try to control things on your own poem and blog pages, you probably have a good right. But I don't think it's your place to decide in the middle of other people's poem and blog pages whether discussions/arguments between other participants should continue or cease. In other words, I think you should let other people decide for themselves instead of sending around PMs asking this one to ignore that one and instead of jumping in here and trying to orchestrate the flow of comments and responses to be more to your liking. I'm sorry for the harshness, as I do like you very much, Mona, but I think in this case a wake-up call to you really is warranted. Thanks for your consideration and understanding.

15 years 11 months ago

Ya know here Marie

I dont know what or who you are talking about and what the pm to tell people to ignore who? You will not start on my shit now as I never talked about you in here. I wrote blogs in the past and others no names mentioned always came in my blogs and started shit and I am not doing that here, If you could understand what I am saying this is not about you it is about every person who continues this charade of back and forth. I do not need a wake up call I have been here long enough to know what is going on and this is not a place to air out personality differences. In no way what you read is for you. SO why the commetn to me, chuck can tell me to go to hell if he wishes that is fine. I am not telling you or anyone else in here to shut up I think that is someone else that is doing that one. And I certainly am not telling You what to do how do you gather that one up? Geez everything been quiet and now this again. I do not control shit in here, you got that everybody, I am Mona not no little child. I say what the heck I want and I also speak truth. If you all want to keep up your arguing be assured I will not partake, and I feel you owe me an apology for this accusation. If I asked anyone in a pm to ignore anyone in here it was for good reason as they were upset. I did not order anyone to do anything. I am trying to get the ones that are doing all the fighting to cease fire or better yet do what you all have to do but know it is not for the good of this site. I put up a blog to get everyone to think about the voting and damn if I got the cold shoulder and then some more crap from people. I am done playing in this disruptive manner that has been going on. There is a phrase I use and it is Forgive, forget and move on. What is so hard about that I can only imagine. I apologize if you think I intruded or assumed you in any of this. Mona

Marie-I-Be

15 years 11 months ago

Mona

Mona, following is what you wrote. Check out your heading and check out the first word in your message. You wrote directly to me, with my name in the heading to get my attention, and so I responded directly to you. Your resultant confusion about why I would think you were speaking to me is nonsensical. >>Marie >>Marie >>Please can we go forth from this page and settle our differences in silence so this fighting will not continue, after all it is Chucks poem and I am not telling you what to do but for the good of the site can we end this and on other pages as well. Don’t be angry at me for at least asking of all of you. >>I thank you for considering. >>Everyone has had enough okay? >>Mona Mona, you've got ten fingers in ten pots, and that's a lot of meddling. I'm just sayin'.

15 years 11 months ago

Marie I BE

Okay here you go on me now. I know what I wrote. Dont play me that way for I came in here to try to calm this back and forth baloney. I did tell you in a nice way also to stop all this bickering or at least to try and ignore it. I am not in the mood to go back and forth with anyone this beautiful Saturday morning. Just leave it alone. Yes I know what I wrote with you name on it but that does not mean you have to take it so personal. Marie if I got ten fingers in twenty pots trust me I can handle it. Been there, done that. I have been frustrated my own self with alot going on and trust me it is not all about Neopoet either, I do have a life outside of here. I asked you nicely to let it go and would appreciate you doing so and if Chuck wants to say anything to me he can. Remember your in his page and not mine. Maybe it is time for you to do your own blog or at least get it out for whatever it is that has been upsetting you here and not infuse me or others what is really bothering you here. We come here to write correct or do we come here to argue? With all due respect Mona

15 years 11 months ago

marie

You remind me of a kettle. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

15 years 11 months ago

Marie

Good thing you stirred this up again, it was being forgotten and I love the way you show your true personality. Thanks! --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

Tam the Chanter

15 years 11 months ago

one man band

No, I don't see Jonathan as a lone voice crying out for the workshop concept to be applied. In this case , "The worst lack all conviction, while the best are full of passionate intensity." amended by me to suit the occasion.I dread the committee getting so pissed off by the sideline snipers that they all pack it in. Well said, Kelsey. Ian

themoonman

15 years 11 months ago

Chuck...

The poem is only good, it is a stumbler when read out loud and quite frankly wouldn't have much strength without your first comment... but there is the rub huh. I believe if you have some valid corruption in mind that Andrew would be very interested in hearing it, but, you did say it started at the top, maybe you meant him. Corrupt is a very nasty word to describe anyone with, and I would take offense at your choice of words, but luckily for me I only have the one feeling left, and I don't bring it here to be trampled on. good day Chuck

15 years 11 months ago

This is Chucks poem

WHy in the hell are you all fighting on his page enough allready with it. Stop this nonsense once and for all. All you do is go from page to page and argue with each other over and over and over, ENOUGH YOUR ACTIONS!!! This is getting blown out of proportion everyone needs to chill out here please for the sake of it all. When will this end? Mona

15 years 11 months ago

Mona,

I'll first point out that this is the second time you've 5-starred the poem. This is an observation, not a judgment, an observation of the value of the 5-star system when any comment can be used to artificially affect the rating of a piece. Second, the admitted subject matter of Chuck's poem is that the AEC is corrupt. That's quite a charge and thus far nothing has been provided as any justification for that charge. After all, Chuck did write the following as a reply to your first comment giving him 5 stars: "to both of you. Round and round she goes, as onsite abusers bully hereabouts. The site’s totally corrupted at this point. And starting with the top. However, I’ve gotta say these aren’t the first occasions the AEC’s misbehaved. The site’s integrity’s thoroughly compromised. I’m about to say bye, probably permanently. Seems the decent thing to do." So why has this discussion progressed? Because Chuck opened it with a false accusation he has refused to verify and others like Marie have joined the parade of stupidity and false accusations. I'd have ignored the poem, like I do with most of the things submitted, but the fabricated accusation is something to which I can legitimately object and point out to Chuck and others the cowardice of the approach. And I will. You want more civility? Start by acting civil. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

15 years 11 months ago

Johnathan

I made an error I see in the star thing, that was an error on my part, but that is not what is important here. I am not reading anymore of this and ending my comments for no one in here listens. EVER. Johnathan you tell me to act civil I think it is time now for you to sit down and take a look at all your blogs and posts to others and think about the word CIVIL here. I know again you want to be correct with everything and that is okay but sometimes you need to own up to your own aggressions at members here. This is not a good way to represent any site and it sure dosen't add up to a hell of alot, it is making things worth. Follow by example, well set for good for the site please. And that goes to all the rest of you here stop this nonsense carrying on like a bunch of school kids. STOP YOUR FIGHTING WITH ALL THE PEOPLE ALL OF YOU IN HERE, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. As you can see I am shouting now and sorry but I am getting sick and tired of it too!! Thanks for nothing Mona

15 years 11 months ago

Mona

Actually, as Anna has pointed out, the error concerning the stars was mine. My apologies for that incorrect judgment. As for civility Mona, we disagree. My blogs are my personal opinions and while I express my opinion strongly I do not disparage individuals. I do disparage conduct and behaviour I consider flawed but I am missing the point where anyone is compelled to come to my blogs and read them. When folks decide their only recourse is to be uncivil towards me, I respond in a manner I deem most appropriate. The people who have been uncivil do not care for this a lot of the time. Not my problem. As far as aggression goes, I aggressively defend myself. I never attempt to force people to do things my way, only demand that I be allowed to do so. But some people are convinced they are smarter than others and when you refuse to support their flawed premise, they get upset and call you names and demand you be banned from places and then claim they are victims when I note they have made a lot of accusations but never supplied a shred of proof for any of them. Because somehow I doubt they'd find it acceptable for people to fabricate accusations against them. We could give it a try, if you'd like. Chuck, Annie, Marie, Dale? You in for this? Are you ready for folks to make up things about you and state them as fact? I'll take your silence as "no." And thus we are shown the hypocrisy of their position and hypocrisy deserves to be opposed. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

15 years 11 months ago

Johnathan

For as long as I have been a member here it seems like this is an never ending saga here and for what purpose I do not know. I too, write a blog NOT to incite fury in the place. I don't call other's names or ridicule them for their poetry either for that matter, I always try to be helpful. If these people you state here would stand up and get it off their chest how they feel I think that would be a good idea and yes I know I can not speak for them as I can only speak for myself. When I write a blog it is me sitting here alone not with someone sitting next to me and telling me how I think or what to write. No one is on the phone coercing me or holding a gun to my head to do anything. I know in the past I have been stubborn to a point and learned also that it is not a healthy way to interact so I try to vere off of it for we are only here for a short time on this earth and why live it in despair. Granted not everyone will agree with me, like yourself and we can not change that for sure. I have tried to ammend with you on several occasions for the good of the site here and I know I can not change you or you change me, I just really feel that to come in here and write poetry is what we all should focus on and not the constant negative backbiting going on. It is okay to debate but to debate fairly for everyone not just the ones we like so much. Annie and Dale do not speak to me no more and probably alot of others won't. They are still friends of mine and if they feel different about me I can not help that either. I am okay with that too. I speak the truth and that is all I hold up to, never meaning to slight any one or hurt no one's feeling. I been called Pollyanna and maybe I should change my name to Pollyanna Magics for that is what one sees but that is not who I am. I can not change anyones feelings for or against me as everyone is an individual and we all have our opinions and differences for sure, they are entitled to their feelings but I do not give them the right to bash me to a pulp. I turn my cheek and keep on walking for they do not pay my bills or live my life for me either. I have learned alot here besides poetry and know that if I did not care for this site I would have left along time ago. I like it here so I try to write and stay out of hurtful ways with anyone. We all have faults and we all fall, but the good thing is we get back up and do the best we can. I do not hold a grudge to no one and why should I? We are all human here. That is all I ever ask of anyone to see the good in the bad and try to help one another. Okay I am tired of my preaching now so I shall leave you with a "Can't we all just get along" Let us all try for once and I am sorry that the ones who are unhappy can not see it in their hearts or minds to come forth and resolve whatever it is that is bothering them. You know me by now and I at least tried. And yes I am sure they make things up about me too, but I am me and I will answer to any of their accusations also. I do not hide away or hold back anything. I will be honest with all that my intentions are. People say how can you be so nice well I don't know, maybe that has been instilled in me from my parents and grandparents and my own life experiences I went through. I can only hope for the best for everyone here. Peace Within Mona

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

I would very much like it to end Mona,

please if you have a suggestion I'd be much obliged! You know, this all started when Marie thought she needed to jump up and shoot down someone's opinion because it differed from (I guess her friend) Annie's. I had said my piece to Annie and WE MOVED ON, peacefully, maturely. But Marie couldn't just sit idly by and let two people agree to disagree with someone else. OH NO. She had to join in three days late and stoke up a fire. I don't go looking for a fight, but if someone throws up their dukes, I'm going to stoop down to their level and have a little fun. Life's too short and TV's too violent, I've got to get entertainment somehow. If you would advise it, I will gladly ignore her (and anyone else who doesn't like me anymore), indefinitely. Thank you Kelsey "In criticism I will be bold, and as sternly, absolutely just with friend and foe. From this purpose nothing shall turn me." -Edgar Allan Poe

15 years 11 months ago

Kelsey

Yes just try to ignore things as you see they are getting blown out of proportion all over on different members poems and blogs. I myself do not think this is representing Neopoet, (a place I have come to love) in the best of light right now. Let us learn to drop things here as this is nothing but differences of opinions going back and forth for no good reason. I say ignore it and move on. LET THERE BE PEACE IN THIS WORKSHOP PLEASE Thanks Mona

15 years 11 months ago

ending it

How to end it? simple:stop replying,,All of you.Swallow pride for good of site.

15 years 11 months ago

Scribbler

This is not about pride, there are things that people want to discuss in here and now is the time to do it or everyone be quiet. Everyone can comment or they can click on to the next poem or blog. No one has a right to tell anyone what to do in here to stop or to go. This is a community. We are not here to save the world we come here as writers. Just as in a dysfunctional family at times we may all not agree with each other but our common goal is to get past it and move on. You may not like alot of what your reading here, and heck I don't either but it is not something to be shoved under the rug either. People need to get out whatever it is they need to all within the guidelines and rules here. Sometimes a debate can be healthy and sometimes not but it is the reader who determines just how much he or she wants to get involved. No one controls free speech in here and you know that allready. Someday you may disagree with something or someone, would you just not say anything and think everything will go away. It dosent work that way for the most part. I am doing the best I can here and if people do not like it or me then I shall continue on my writing for I am not a maker of trouble and do not like insinuations of such. I apologize to you if you take this the wrong way for I enjoy your poetry and by no means I am here to start any negative feelings with you. I have been tired of alot here also and I am tired of sitting back and not saying how I feel about it. I am just being myself and doing what I feel is in the best interest of this site. Enough said now. Truth be told. Mona

Beauregard

15 years 11 months ago

Chuck,

You'll have to excuse us, we're probably spamming your email with these comment notifications. Marie wants everyone to see how clever and superior she is and can't take a discussion to PM. I apologize for the spam, if it's a bother. Kelsey "In criticism I will be bold, and as sternly, absolutely just with friend and foe. From this purpose nothing shall turn me." -Edgar Allan Poe

15 years 11 months ago

STOP

15 years 11 months ago

And then one wonders why

And then one wonders why humans have not learned to end war after our long history of wars for land, religion, goods, ideals, freedom, for our sense of right and wrong. If one wants out. One simply stops. Surrenders. Let's go. And if one chooses, one removes oneself from the thread. There is that option in the notification email we get. And Jonathan, did you forget that the stars one awards is automatic with each posting on that poem's thread? At least that's how it was when I awarded them. ~Anna The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

15 years 11 months ago

Agree with Anna

Yes the star thing did come up automatically that is correct, Thank you for pointing that one out for me. Surrender Dorothy LOL Mona oxxo

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STOP

15 years 11 months ago

Anna

A few things. 1) - Stars - I have not used the used the star system in a while was not aware of the modification that pre-selected all non-reply comments with a rating. I honestly do not remember if it's always been that way. My mistake on that and I'll not make it again. 2) It's not about surrender, it's about choosing not to attack. Right now the people who complain the loudest about the environment are the people who are doing the attacking and not liking the results. 3) With rare exceptions, I do not start my interaction with people by attacking them. In the vast majority of those exceptions I have been in the wrong and have made both public and private apologies, in each case, for my behaviour. There have been times when my judgment on the issue was correct but as these have been the exception, obviously the action is flawed and should not be excused. 4) I generally keep to myself at Neopoet. I write my stupid blogs and occasionally submit a poem and remind people about contests and the like but I rarely interact with a lot of the people here because it is obvious they are not here for the same experience I am. The exceptions I make are fabricated accusations. Since in 100% of the cases these fabricated accusations have proven to be the result of anger rather than any real violation, I judge my behaviour is warranted. So when I tell people if they want more civility then they should start by being civil it is because it is a basic fact. Civility is not imposed by decree, it is engendered by civility and though there are some people who can take abuse and be attacked and accused without reminding the antagonists of their shallow and meaningless lives and talentless blatherings, I am not one of them. My response to them is to convince them they never want to interact with me again. Because I am only here for the poetry workshop. Not personal validation, not to be told I am pretty, not to be told I am better than others. I am only here to learn to write better and anything that gets in the way of that, especially childish accusations from childish people, I oppose. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

15 years 11 months ago

Jonathan, surrender is a

Jonathan, surrender is a choice: one does after losing a war..... or before one starts any war.....it's our own egos we do battle with after all is said and done. It's a mindset of awareness. You know that as a...pugilist. ~A The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. ~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

15 years 11 months ago

Anna

I suspect we're using the word "surrender" in different contexts. The context in which I am using surrender is the following: "I was wrong for the actions I took or have decided the investment in time and resources does not justify the effort" Many people use surrender in the following context: "You have an unfair advantage over me and I have to stop but I will harbour resentment forever" And I understand there are other contexts but I suspect neither of these are the context in which you are using the word. My issue with the latter context is the resentment. Rather than making a clean break with a situation, folks keep score and use the resentment from one issue to justify attacks on unrelated issues. Rather like Marie rushing in to praise anything she interprets as a slight against me. Because I accept responsibility for my actions and own all errors I make, resentment and I are not on good terms and I rather like that. --Jonathan Annoying the world, one person at a time (Group discounts available)

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STOP

Thulisile

15 years 11 months ago

AMEN!

15 years 11 months ago

FINALLY!

Mark

15 years 11 months ago

Geeze LOOL I only read about half way down

Chuck, I don't think your poem could be a better example of a vicious cycle and this rather long string of comments (I believe) goes to prove it true - great work! BTW I needed to rewrite it to see it, you wordsmith ! LOOL PS Kelsey, I once had a name - DorfusPottyMouth lmao Mark Resilient Flexibility RUN; when there seems to be no answer common sense will not speak, so run - -go running..