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Seren
Seren
May 03, 2010 ⭐ View statistics (Premium feature)

In your name; not Gods, are you forgiven

I was distraught
as the eyes of grace
fell from you,
and when the fear
and insecurity
of self loathing
reigned supreme

it was then
I knew,
we were in trouble

curtains were pulled
as your eyes downcast,
the outcast in you
plays over and over
in the same scene,
as your crimes
against god,
torment your
everlasting spirit
(you say)

I say, you are human
I say, you are beautiful
and I also say,
if your god
cant forgive you?
he can go get fucked

I forgave you before
you ever asked for it,
this madness will cease
one day? you will see
how gorgeous you are

and forgive yourself 

— Seren, May 03, 2010

About This Poem

About the Author

Region, Country: Beyond the Black Stump..Australia, AUS

Favorite Poets: Pablo Neruda, P.K.Page, W.H.Auden, to many and various to include them all ...

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Candlewitch

Candlewitch

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Jayne

I applaud your message here! Excellent and I agree. My favorites: I say, you are human I say, you are beautiful and I also say, if your god cant forgive you? he can go get fucked I could just kiss you for that! Love, Cat
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dearest Cat

Big hugs to you so glad you liked this one, I have a friend and she was having a few issues I wrote this for her and she loves it lol said I couldnt possibly post it with that line, I said watch me ... its not meant to be offensive to any religion but for someone with mental illness and we are talking quite profound the religious torment for her is quite severe and the line between faith and delusion can blur as I know only too well love and big hugs JayCee x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Your right I wrote this in

Your right I wrote this in such a way that the message could be used in different situations but for me the message is personal ... where the reader takes it is up to them I am very happy you enjoyed it love and hugs JayCee x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Thanks darlin love wifey x x

Thanks darlin love wifey x x x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Copriuos

we are all outcasts at some time in life, glad you liked my poem I appreciate the comment love JayCee ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Ells

You must have just been here when I was visiting you lol very happy you liked it hun .. I am rattling when I walk at the moment lol but I am starting to feel a little better though hun thanks love and big hugs JayCee x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
SH

shirley harrison

16 years 1 month ago

beautiful

A splendid piece wonderful jc Much love shirley harrison
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Shirley

thanks for the comment I am very happy you liked it hun love and big hugs JayCee x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Lonnie

thank you so much for the kudos ... I was a little worried about this one but decided that people would get where I was coming from thanks so much for your comment I know you and Chrys must be busy busy busy so I appreciate your time and your visit love and big hugs JayCee ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Roscoe

You just gave me the biggest smile thanks for that ... my singing teacher when I was learning, used to use that expression when I did something right ... you made my day thank you(hugs) love JayCee x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
loved

loved

16 years 1 month ago

the woman

the woman in u speaks the raw truth how soever harsh its sweeetened like nectar the whole real truth loved it like others did loved
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Loved

Harsh or not the truth is different for all thanks for the comment I do appreciate it and I am very happy you liked it love and hugs JayCee ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Eph

I love the words around your head they make us laugh as our soul is fed serenely my words float on the night but god pissed off and turned off the light thanks for the comment Eph I love your replys always make me smile love and hugs JayCee ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
hobo

hobo

16 years 1 month ago

very strong

forgiving ourselves can be a very hard thing to do. espically if others have been putting it in our ears that we are worthless and don't deserve to be forgive, I have a very beautiful friend who has been put down my her husband so long that she doesn't think she is beautiful anymore, that is a sin
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Hobo

How very right you are forgiving myself(I found) was the hardest thing I ever did ... I can forgive a world but not myself .. I hope that your friend finds her way I was in a similar situation when I was married ... I got out and have never looked back ... I wish her strength to see that shes as beautiful as the day is long ... we all are ... we just dont see it and funny you mention sin ... I was going to call this one .. the 11th sin but didnt want to upset anyone ;)thanks for seeing where I was coming from Randy love and big hugs JayCee ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
xena465

xena465

16 years 1 month ago

Dear JayCee

I understand this one perfectly. With mental illness it's hard to be reached by friends and family. No matter how much you say you understand and forgive, they seldom forgive themselves. Rosina xena465
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Rosina in my experience I

Rosina in my experience I found that with clarity of being well people often forgive themselves or at least find a gentle acceptance of things ... I would hope that with the greater knowledge of mental illness and more awareness that the stigmatism will one day fall from the eyes of those that dont see that mental illness isnt something people choose, its a disease that can be treated and so many people move on to better lives with proper treatment and live full lives love and big hugs JayCee x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
xena465

xena465

16 years 1 month ago

I agree totally

We don't choose it, but there are still people that don't believe in some mental illnesses, like mine. As you know I've attempted suicide on many occasions and have sought professional help and got better, but it can creep up on you again and again, and this is what some people don't understand with my illness. No one in their right mind tries to kill themselves over & over again. And it's not attention seeking in my case. There have been times when no one knew I'd done it and I've woken up days later, being unconscious the whole time, as I hadn't called for help. Fortunately, it’s not a frequent occurrence and I manage to overcome my fear of the future most of the time. I do try, but when you’re lost in yourself and there’s no one you want in your life it can get lonely and eat at you until it weakens your existence to a point of no return. But I do keep returning so I’m not meant to die…not yet anyway! Rosina xena465
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Rosina

for me there are signs I guess you could call them, things that I do only when I start to get unwell when I notice them I do something about it ... I choose to be well, I might not always be able to stay that way? but in my case prevention has been as close to a cure as I have gotten and I am accepting of that, we all have limitations I have to learn to work around mine, even when you are in a room full of people you can feel alone, some of the most lonely I have ever felt was surrounded by others ... Rosina I know your a strong woman and I know its hard I am always here if you ever need to talk love and hugs JayCee x x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
xena465

xena465

16 years 1 month ago

I know what you mean...

And you don't deserve to be ill, but sad to say that's life, and you cope with it wonderfully. You have my full admiration. Rosina xena465
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Dear Rosina

None of us deserve it hun, but I like to look at as another challenge ... and I love a good challenge and beating the beast has afforded me some satisfaction lol nothing better than being well and spitting in its face, I know you can be as well hun ((hugs)) you have my admiration as well battling it is the first step to being better love and biggest hugs Jayne-Chloe x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
Geezer

Geezer

16 years 1 month ago

I felt your message…and

I felt your message...and felt like I should say something profound, but you and the others have said it all. ~ Love and higgest bugs, ~ Gee
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

My Dearest Gee

Just that you read and liked it was enough for me ... I somethings get lost for words and wonderful and beautiful are used often or speechless lol hope your well its really good to see you too love and higgliest bugs Jayne-Chloe x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")
L

lyz

16 years 1 month ago

A+

Wow and wow. Well done Jayne, a marvelous piece. Strong and free. Your voice is heard and message received, Bravo. XX
Seren

Seren

16 years 1 month ago

Biggest smile and thanks for

Biggest smile and thanks for the Wow's much appreciated huni ... I feel like dogshit but ill live, been in bed most days all day lol very happy your back and happy you like my new stuff got some rhymers coming up in the next week lol ;) love and biggest hugs Jayne-Chloe x x x ("Quote:-For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.-Ivan Panin")