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Into the Rye, (Updated)


He passes into the Rye

an icon of much esteem

a relic of American pie

like the memory of James Dean

he embodies the Catcher

victim of the political machine

 

We walk his tightrope

interpreting such a character
 


A Rebel known as Holden

Skeward with doubt

taunts subtle but golden

a  reflection darkly layed out.

 

A Path of glass and flare

a blank momentary stare
 
without constraint to beware

lacking a place to compare

 

J.D. Salinger created a shield

did he know what it might do

the influence it could wield

was he writing for me or you

do we know Holden Caulfield?

 

From the gun of Mark David Chapman

in the taking of Lennon's marked life

A shadow of such madmen

living life gray and full of strife

 

So we send it to the classroom

tagged as a tale of wayward youth

a lesson left to simmer and bloom

and a ferry to explore the truth.

 

 Julie

 

 D.D.
 

 

2/4/2010

 
In memory of J.D. Salinger. Author of *"The Catcher and the Rye"*

 

1919 2010

 

Died wed, Jan 27 2010
*sometimes referred to as Catcher or CR.*

— DawningDaytripper, Feb 05, 2010

About This Poem

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Region, Country: Robe valley, WA, USA

Favorite Poets: All of them, for differant reasons. Neopoet poets have influenced me the most over the last 2 plus years. Great teachers. Edgar Allen Poe, Dickens, way to many to list...

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pint_a_stoli

16 years 4 months ago

dawning

your last stanza was the best... I could see you standing in front of a college Lit. classroom on the first day with these exact words being your opening statement to your students. With the exception of a few grammatical errors, nicely done! PINT :)
DawningDaytripper

DawningDaytripper

16 years 4 months ago

Thank you Pint a stoli, Feel

Thank you Pint a stoli, Feel free to correct my grammar. I will appreaciate and implement any needed corrections. I am learning the hard way, I have come very far from my first posts and dependance on spell check, but still have far to go with grammar and its complications. Thanks for reading! Julie D.D.
Kailashana

Kailashana

16 years 4 months ago

This is a wonderful tribute

This is a wonderful tribute poem, Julie. Congrats... you should submit to a Salinger and/or Lennon organization. Thank you. ~A p.s. Though you were established at Neo before I was I can see your evolution as a poet. Well done!
DawningDaytripper

DawningDaytripper

16 years 4 months ago

Oh I am from just a little

Oh I am from just a little ways back Anna, My first profile started in Novemeber of O8. One day soon I have been promised all of my old posts will find a way to my new profile. But it is no ones fault but my own for leaving. Anyways it was well worth seeing past my immeadiate issue and re-evaluate why I wanted to be here and what I expected from Neopoet. What was realistic. But again worth it. I started at the very bottom. I showed up with heartbroken poetry from some deaths I took very personal, with only an amature love and knowledge. And well, here I am just a year and half later able to write something not just fluff. Although still amature. It amazes me daily. Thanks for reading Anna. I will consider your kind suggestions. Julie D.D.
DawningDaytripper

DawningDaytripper

16 years 4 months ago

Ladies who have already

Ladies who have already graced this page. And any one else I am lucky enough to have read my tribute, be sure to re read and give me your thoughts on my changes!! Julie
DawningDaytripper

DawningDaytripper

16 years 4 months ago

Stars mystify me if you

Stars mystify me if you don't know the context Dale, But no worries, I have yet to find any one who does. Or sharing with me that they do. I find it slightly disturbing that I am part of a writing community that for the most part, and responses I have gotten, don't know Catcher and the Rye. The number one banned book, and second most assigned in HS across the US. But Oh well. James Dean was the rebel with out a cause. Although Catcher and the Rye came out Ten yrs prior to the movie, Holden Caulfield was known as a Rebel with out a cause. Also said that Catcher had some to do with shaping the role for James Dean. As for Mark David Chapman, who assasinated John Lennon, He said part of his reasons for the assasination was due to reading Catcher and the Rye. JD Salinger is only known for Catcher and the Rye, his sole published book since Catcher. Because of the issues that arose with libertys and trying to bring the story to stage and screen. He wrote it is said up to another 15 novels before his death last month. And if we are lucky the estate may now sell the rights. Salinger only cared when he was alive, and had some intentions of them being released on his death. We hope. I hope that answers your questions Indi. Thanks for reading and asking. Julie D.D.
DawningDaytripper

DawningDaytripper

16 years 4 months ago

Sorry for my giving the

Sorry for my giving the wrong impression. It's not directed at you. I have yet, to meet ANY ONE who does know of the content. I find it frusterating. I realy didn't mean to imply that you should have read, I sucked in school. I was hardly there. But I did catch this book. it influenced me. I find it surprising so few others have read it. I don't care about stars. I think they defeat purpose of workshop, I was recently informed they are not even used for determining spotlight. That is the nominate button. So do ? the need. I personaly fought to keep voting private. Trying to do my part in detering the popularity contest. But that is part of the whole dealo. I do occasionaly give stars. When I love it, I adorn them. I don't usualy. I don't mind how you use them. They are your stars to use. What I was saying, this poem CAN"T be good unless the content is sound. Not knowing the story, gives a hard place to give critique. But I do welcome it. And I have found, not many here. OR in my homelife world, ever even read the book. Thats nothing on you guys. Julie D.D.
Kailashana

Kailashana

16 years 4 months ago

No matter how or if we are

No matter how or if we are on the *same page* with another writer, how or if we have experienced the same reads, places, feelings, thoughts, how or if we weave them together in a poem is that strange thing that makes us unique, what brings us together. How we interpret them is no less distinguishable than the realities in our minds. ~A
themoonman

themoonman

16 years 4 months ago

Julie...

Your poem, is pretty good, content left a little to be desired for me. J.D. Salinger would probably appreciate it if you referred to his book by "The Catcher in the Rye", for that was the name. The title for the book came from a poem written by Robert Burns, "Comin thro the rye". The book was the number one banned book in schools in America from 1961 to 1984, I quit school in 1976, was an avid reader but never read the book until much later, there was so much hype about the book that when I read it, I remember thinking "why"... it was a good book, but I didn't find it to be the literary experience of a lifetime like I'd heard it was... just one man's opinion.
DawningDaytripper

DawningDaytripper

16 years 4 months ago

Just what I needed Richard.

Just what I needed Richard. So obvious the title issue. That's what I get for thinking I knew, and why I have been searching for someone who has read it. By the way my first impressions of the book were similar. But I did some follow up study with class and found a lot of value in it. But that is subtle. Hence my line, subtle but Golden. I shall incorparate your valid points asap. Thank you kindly for proving me wrong and commenting. I am grateful I found someone who remembers they read it. I was starting to think I was a lone weirdo. I been searching, off neo and here for days. I found one or two persons who had read it, but couldn't remember, nor cared to. One of the many reasons I need my wonderful community. Reading and Writing is not very valued around me. Sadly. Thank you, Julie D.D.
DawningDaytripper

DawningDaytripper

16 years 3 months ago

Bash hardly, Never bash

Bash hardly, Never bash Mona. Espeacialy not you. No I will consider your thinking. But my imagary and intent was involved with the book The catcher and the Rye, and mourning the loss of the author. Although he wrote other stuff. I could have been approached in several differant ways. I chose one using the angle of how Catcher and the Rye is taught in school. Its relavance to what it has been used for, as an excuse of. And what we send it in to the classroom as. The cliche's associated with it and influence on popular culture. Let me explain my meaning to the cliches. I didn't sit and pour this out. I set a task, studied. Which I had to do more since posting. And laid it out. I love spontanous poetry but this one moved me because of the vague lessons that have evolved over time from it. And wanting to express that in my poetry, which doesn't nessasaraly honor the Author at all. He was not a poet, in the sense that we are. He was an Author. He may well have called it pure fluff. As for it not being my best. You are proably right. But my best comes when it is natural. I put a lot more work in to this. This is the challenge, when its not so much: I learned something. And the fact that you cared enough to comment, means alot. a relic of American pie like the memory of James Dean- This is in referance to the fact many don't see the relavnce that particularly CR has. and it is considered out of date and irrelavent. Their for a relic, and American pie for me is the American dream. And CR was published after ww2 and the time of the image for american pie for me. Also it is said, not proved, that James Dean somewhat modeled the charecter in Rebel with out a cause, on Holden Caulfields charecter. he embodies the Catcher victim of the political machine- here he turned into his charecter, to me relavant. and they both have been victioms of the polictical machine. A Rebel known as Holden-he is known as a Rebal,- but it is up for debate, so known as.. J.D. Salinger created a shield did he know what it might do the influence it could wield was he writing for me or you do we know Holden Caulfield? - Pointing out that most including myself don't always get what he was doing, or the waves it would cause in the political world. For what ever reason. So I posed it as a question. And he did create a shield for what CR created around him. From the gun of Mark David Chapman in the taking of Lennon’s marked life- Mark David Chapman referanced CR after he shot Lennon. He was a whack job, but for some this is all they know about the book or the Author. A shadow of such madmen living life gray and full of strife- It has been seen as being written from him in latter yrs, or I should say first person. That CR was written from an insanatoriam and may just have been the ramblings of a madman about his youth. Infact that was my first impressions and what I told my teacher after I read it and before we reviewed it. Although Salinger was a bit dingy in his later and ecentric yrs. I will consider your thoughts, but the cliches are the story. Thanks for reading and taking the time, it is much appreaciated. Julie D.D.
xena465

xena465

16 years 3 months ago

I haven't read the book...

my judgement on the poem is about the poem only. I really like it. I understand where it's coming from and for me that's a plus not having read the book. Great. Rosina xena465
judyanne

judyanne

16 years 3 months ago

I read somewhere that when

I read somewhere that when Mark Chapman was arrested he had the book in his pocket. I read it long ago - wasn't particularly impressed with it. But I am impressed with your poem Julie. 'do we know Holden Caulfield?' - I think so. In every lost teenage soul that seeks some meaning to this existence. Judy
DawningDaytripper

DawningDaytripper

16 years 3 months ago

No I wasn’t impressed with

No I wasn't impressed with Mark chapman either, but thanks for adding to my knowledge of it Judy. I was just using it to bring up the question of sanity, all around. You have been making a great splash around here and I am just overflowing with happy giggles about how involved you are getting! And even studing Holden, I don't feel like I know him. Which I guess is why I put the question in there. I don't think he processes information the same as all teenagers. Lost, angst, average. But not social. Possible nueratic. And I think Salinger emphasized this with his vagueness. I have a teenager. They are in enigma. But Holden was lost, in a world that was all around. With support and friends. I think the book was a insight into teenage insanity starting. Mental illness has to start somewhere. Just one part of it though. Thanks for reading Judy. Julie D.D.
DawningDaytripper

DawningDaytripper

16 years 3 months ago

No I wasn’t impressed with

No I wasn't impressed with Mark chapman either, but thanks for adding to my knowledge of it Judy. I was just using it to bring up the question of sanity, all around. You have been making a great splash around here and I am just overflowing with happy giggles about how involved you are getting! And even studing Holden, I don't feel like I know him. Which I guess is why I put the question in there. I don't think he processes information the same as all teenagers. Lost, angst, average. But not social. Possible nueratic. And I think Salinger emphasized this with his vagueness. I have a teenager. They are in enigma. But Holden was lost, in a world that was all around. With support and friends. I think the book was a insight into teenage insanity starting. Mental illness has to start somewhere. Just one part of it though. Thanks for reading Judy. Julie D.D.