Lunegirl

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lolita

she kicked her boots up high
put her legs behind her head
her red hair flaming her shoulders
as they tumbled onto the bed

she’d had one man too many
hell she’d had them all
her name was Lolita
and she was no man’s fool

she’d had them on the table
on the front room floor
she’d had them in the grave yard
an up against the wooden church door

they kissed her sweet perfume
licked her cherry tops
held her gushing flowers
as she screamed from the roof top

know me now
I am Lolita
I am who all the girls want to be
know me I am Lolita
and I am sexually free

I’m not constrained by social morals
worried by the cross bearers views
I’m sure of who I am
I can’t be accused of being confused

so when you’re cold and lonely
invoke the image of me
embody who I am
it’s Ok to be sexually free

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Damo

16 years 4 months ago

i really enjoyed this one

i really enjoyed this one though I think it could have been shorter. I think the beginning of the poem infers pride in sexual freedom without having to then go on explicitly say it - for me, that is the joy of poetry sometimes (or most of the time, really!) On the whole though, I enjoyed this one and it's intended message.

Lunegirl

16 years 4 months ago

Glad you liked it, tbh i

Glad you liked it, tbh i didn't put to much thought into this one, it was a little bit of fun after a stressful day ; ) however, after reading all the comments i will think before i post again lol

Idlemindwondering

16 years 4 months ago

I have always believed

it so foolish that men can sow their oats to quiet snickers; but girls must be ladies. "tender young Alice, they say, come over and meet me, come over and greet me: alice, it's my turn today!" Elton John great job ken

Lunegirl

16 years 4 months ago

Thankyou i am pleased you

Thankyou i am pleased you like. I didn't really expect feed back it was meant to be a silly little thing. ; ) vicki

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

Are you sure you want men to think of a 12 y old ...

A victim of an older man's moral decrepitude and probably a victim of child sex when even younger? Nabukov may have written a masterpiece but the inferance is that its not freedom but abandon and precocious self destruction she was indulging in. Sorry can't go along with this one ..its badly written and much too thoughtless to give stars to. The only thing going for it is the tasteful restraint in language. Kal

Lunegirl

16 years 4 months ago

Ok, morning Kal. This i can

Ok, morning Kal. This i can see is a sensitive issue for you. Firstly id like to say that, I have never read the book or seen the film Lolita, I just like the name. It is what i would have called my new baby if i hadn't already decided. Secondly, i do know through conversation that the book is about a tempress teen, well that is what i had gleaned. My ''little'' poem was not meant to be taken seriously at all. It was a little ryhme that came into my head last night. i|t for me was a welcome bit of fun after a difficault day writing bruised mind. Now after reading all the comments i see it caused a stir and debate. I would not like to offend anyone. thats just the way i am. I do understand where you are coming from. definately, but.... there is never any excuse for violence, rape, abuse of any kind. i got ripped to pieces on a kilroy show years ago for saying woman should be able to wear what they like and men shouldnt see it as a red light for sex. ''nieve'' i was called. i still stick to my guns now. i am an empowered woman. i wear what i like, weather that be, next to nothing or completely covered up. i do what i like when i like. taking into consideration reasonable not offending others, (i wou;ldn't go to turkey uncovered, a mosque with out a head scarf ect) If i look a little deeper at what is meant to be a silly light poem, i think it is really saying ''woman should have the choice'' sex between consenting adults, is not wrong dirty, rude, ect/. society has made it that way, depraved people will abuse rape beat a woman no matter what she wears who she sleeps with. It is the abusers problem not the woman, there will always be an excuse in the abusers eyes. If all woman are above reproach by acting pure, is an unfair concept and allowing abusers to get away with their veiws. This is only my opinion though. childsex slaves and victems are a completely seperate matter. ''sharon'' is as derogatery as lolita in essex where i live. I am so thankful for all the lovely supportive feed back you give, so i take a deep breath as i say this, but i see you have insulted Jayne saying about cactus in the deserts. its unfair, she doesn't deserve it and it demeans you to lower yourself to such base. The kind of thing that gives you nice guys a bad name. vicki

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

Your a lucky girl .. you did not.!

Now that is an answer instead of the mealy mouthed rubbish about education or survival . You genuinely did not know the incredibly controversial baggage that travels before the cute name of Lolita . To people of a certain age this is one of the most unbelievably controversial books of the permissive sixties and the question of children's sexuality arrived on the western worlds stage with a superb book and film but it took the breath of society away with a narrative barely approached since Romeo and Juliet (of which a certain element is echoed in the book) Recently Woolworth's brought out a range of childrens bedroom furniture for girls named the Lolita and the furore was incredible. Firstly now that I know it was accidental, the write changes somewhat into something like when I posted my swastika avatar , my gore rose on reflex because the poem is quite blunt in its exhortation for men to call upon Lolita's image and to embody her . Well as you can imagine that is incendiary at the very least ( but I can cope with my own honest sexuality) but with the name of this child well it becomes positively nuclear. You can draw from my comments how unfortunate your daughter would have been carrying such a name and that is why I changed my little boy's name from Hitler to something less controversial. Attila is doing fine now. The only relevant point now is this: If this had been written by a man what would have the response been too it? I hesitate to answer dare I start another conflagration of shrill pseudo-feminist indignation that is nothing but shrill and evasive - he would have been condemned as a Humbert in poets clothing and rightly so . And being prickly wont change a thing. Kal by the way your a bloody good writer just badly read that's all

Lunegirl

16 years 4 months ago

Ok off the cuff response.

Ok off the cuff response. Names retain their power if we let them. no one can ever be called hitler again, lets him keep his power even in death. every name holds a horrible tale it is just that some make it public. I believe in moving on from the past. now Hitler is a biggy but if many people joined together and called their children hitler an those children did good things in time it would dispell the evil ''thing'' surrounding the name. although i know this is a difficault task. If i had another child and it was a girl i would still call her lolita, it is a beautiful name. It is upto the individual to rise up and dispel myths. As for if a man wrote this, that is like saying that black people can't call each other ''nigga'' However i believe lots of guys are treated poorly by woman, it just isn't as publised and when they are treated bady sexually in the work place they have every right to stand up and complain as much as the next woman. Its about context. i look forward to further debating vicki ; )

Kailashana

16 years 4 months ago

Vicki, I’ll be the first

Vicki, I'll be the first woman to comment on this then. There may be some grammatical errors, some words I'd change around (perhaps), but I really appreciate the context and your bravery (again!) So I'd like to open a taboo subject... are *children*, especially young girls sexual beings? Putting aside dirty old men....and all. Or is this another way of subjugating the female species? I think it's the later. And bravo for you Vicki! I'm tired of society victimizing women, girls, albeit as *protector*. ~Anna And now for the spelling etc. she kicked her boots up high put her legs behind her head her red hair flaming her shoulders as they tumbled onto the bed she’d had one man too many hell she’d had them all her name was Lolita and she was no man's fool she’d had them on the table on the front room floor she’d had them in the grave yard an up against the wooden church door they kissed her sweet perfume licked her cherry tops held her gushing flowers as she screamed from the roof top know me now I am Lolita I am who all the girls want to be know me I am Lolita and I am sexually free I'm not constrained by social morals worried by woman's lib views I'm sure of who I am I can’t be accused of being confused so when you're cold and lonely invoke the image of me embody who I am it's Ok to be sexually free Vicki, I often use a lower case I, but in this poem you pack power...so *I* would be appropriate. Also the 5th paragraph imo, needs the I am spelled out, without contraction. It's Lolita's declaration!!! (By the way, capitalizing her nam, Lolita is the right thing to do.) Well done Madame Fuckwit. ~A

Lunegirl

16 years 4 months ago

Wow such debates for

Wow such debates for somethng meant to be so light hearted. thankyou for correcting i will do that. Such a hard write was bruised mind, as in tiering, that this piece was a welcome bit of light hearted fun, it literally tripped off the tongue in seconds with no real thought... opps. i think you may have read the book, oranges arn't the only fruit? I haven't, only the introduction that talks about children being sexual beings. Well of course they are, in a nieve and innocent way. Something that feels niceis enevitably going to be explored as is the human way of inquisitiveness. Adults are the ones who make children feel bad for something natural, and as you know adults are the ones that exploit children. but as in doctors and nurses, well i was an avid player. Maybe its my own fault i was abused and battered then ; ) Im with kal on the uneducated children and the dreadful things that happen, but i think you are to!! This poem as you rightly gleaned is a thoughtless celebration of choice and sex being something fun. I am now going to ''think'' about what i post to make sure it is written as well as it can be. I will ''think'' about the power of this piece i have written, although unintentional, i see why it has caused a stir. And now it has stired, i ask isn't that what poetry is sometimes supposed to do? I think i need to rewrite womans lib part as real womans lib celebrates what this poem even more so now embodies much love vicki MADAMF

Kailashana

16 years 4 months ago

Vicki, I’ve met a few

Vicki, I've met a few poets who NEVER write poems that are about themselves... and I get that. They're great storytellers and after awhile I, I forget which poem is based on actual experience and which is based on storytelling cause it doen't matter. Please, for all our sake, KEEP WRITING WHATEVER APPEALS TO YOU, story, truth or somewhere in between. You JUST WRITE FOR YOURSELF... how we interpret it, and what we want to make out of it has little or nothing to do with you, when you think about it... it's our OWN AGENDAS, then, if we're honest about it. Of course, Poetry is supposed to stir... if it doesn't either it's bland poetry or it's a hard-headed and/or hard-hearted reader. Love, Anna

Kailashana

16 years 4 months ago

why

am I having trouble with duplications again?

Seren

16 years 4 months ago

Woman have the power to be

Woman have the power to be what they want and stand up to any man they just have to choose ... and sexual freedom to me is a personal thing ... what will be will be ... brutal write Vix but again another awesome read your stepping out and its brilliant to watch you flourish love and hugs Jayne x x

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

Do they?

So what happens when they do JC ? Are they beaten and blamed, bad mouthed and oppressed are the institutionally deprived and judged? perhaps they are condemned for being too indulgent, stroppy, wanton and sluttish or subjugated from day one in the full face mask of male bondage , slaves to the will of the murderous patriarch. Or in this case the daughter of a single , separated mother who befriends a predatory male who then goes on to rape a 12 year old girl and blames her for being sexualised by an unknown male in her past . The reality is only strong, well educated, balanced, empowered women have the power to stand up to an oppressive male in their lives be it a father, brother, uncle or cousin who has access to them because by definition the victims of sexual exploitation haven't. Vicki has written an ambiguous poem here which is moral challenging because there is no exhortation to Lolita to desist and seek help, this Lolita is wanton and free but unknowing og the long term damage she will inevitable reap. The whole point of the write may have been deeply challenging and ironic, even mischievous like Lolita herself is in the book but its unclear whether that is achieved clearly. There should be no shaded boundaries in writes like this and there is only one rule : children are sacrosanct. Now if Vicki changed the name to Sharon I would have no objection because thAT NAME CARRIES NO OVERTONES TO WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN ABOVE , SHARON WOULD INDEED BE FREE TO DO AS SHE WILLS AND INDULGE HER SEXUALITY IN ANY WAY SHE WANTS . oops sorry about the caps.She would indeed be womn incharge of her destiny and not at the hypnotic exploitative beck and call of a experienced, male predator without scruples or real consideration. Kal

Seren

16 years 4 months ago

I was one of those woman

I was one of those woman that was beaten to submission for 17 yrs Kal ... dont tell me what its like to be subjugated beaten and abused ... some of us surface stronger for the experience some crumble and its those few I have helped counsel for yrs Jayne

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

I wasnt telling you anything ..you were telling me ..

Are we to get into statistics here ..the majority ,the minority - who crumble? Excuse me for being vociferous and saying no to this situation. So you survived great, I applaud you , well done you have risen to be a strong white independent , intelligent woman who writes wonderful poetry ; day after day! And what of the unknown ones , boys and girls not just Lolitas' but Lolo's who have been sexualised without the adjunct of education as Kailashana says the ones that are thrown from pillar to porn like rags without feelings or education, support organisations or charities. Or the ones that go on to sell their children because they are of the understanding that a little sex early on never did me any harm ? Are we to say focus on the third world or developing world where life is cheap and the exploitation and selling of children in bonded sexual labour is an everyday occurrence, or shall we by pass the white man's home and go straight to the tribal hut and the patriarchal burka. The truer picture is that males are still the dominant exploitative sex on this planet and many of them are all too willing to groom the weak, young and defenceless for exploitation and all do it in a different way and if Nabakov wrote of taboos he did it by not encouraging men to draw from that exploitation as succour and strength but to see Humbert as a sad , vile, isolated man without love and support from family or even relatives. We are not invited to his home where nephews and nieces. play, where grandmother and friends interact We are in very very dangerous moral countryside here and from what I have gathered so far in this self satisfied little interchange is that it's a desert landscape with cacti for companions. Kal

Seren

16 years 4 months ago

I really do hope you feel

I really do hope you feel better now ... I never said anything specific in my comment as to half the things you mention in your comment ... I am in no mood to debate Kal ... go pick a fight elsewhere ... Jayne P.S and if you think my lifes a box of chocolates your barking up the wrong tree ... you dont know me dont think you do ... your so far off the mark its scary

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

not picking a fight ..

Things are closer than they appear in the mirror...

Seren

16 years 4 months ago

Dear Kal

When you decided to take me to task for my comment this morning I was barely awake ... I wake up to even more insults ... you were quiet definately trying to pick a fight lol ... but sadder is the fact you took for granted I had seen this movie and read the book ... I have not read it ... so I have no fucking idea why you exploded at my comment ... 'woman do have the right to choose' oh and your comment down below ... rubbish about survival and education ?? its all about survival and education .... if you cant survive or educate, the cycle perpetuates ... you have no idea what your talking about ... when you have 'educated' yourself come back and try and have another conversatation I have no time for people who run around with blinkers on ... you wear them and only take them off when it suits you now the discussions over as far as I am concerned ... and things are closer than they appear in the mirror ... I dont rely on second hand images to know anything ... and thanks for the heads up on your low opinion of me ... :) Jayne-Chloe

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

I don't think I insulted you..

And if you feel I did , feel free to take it to the Central scrutiniser. I was making a point and I think your answer revealed exactly what I thought. I won't broach this subject again except as comment to the inevitable slew of ex-battered poets that seem drawn to share their trauma on Neopoets pages.

Kailashana

16 years 4 months ago

“to the inevitable slew of

"to the inevitable slew of ex-battered poets that seem drawn to share their trauma on Neopoets pages." This is absolutely pathetic Kal. From Lolita to Pollyanna. Thanks for nothing, I had thought better of you, at the moment I'm quite disappointed, should you care to know. ~A

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

Men too ! We are all victims .

Yes men too. And what is pathetic about that?

Kailashana

16 years 4 months ago

Yes, we’re all victims of

Yes, we're all victims of society, our ethnicity, our religiosity and our upbringing. None of it being given to us or assimilated with or in *perfection*. Then I was wrong in my assessment of your posting/positing that sentence? And you have no further problem of *saving* us poor women who can not speak for ourselves in the present? And you have no problem with any woman not wanting your *help*? And you have no problem with a man who writes songs of various ways a woman is seen and held in a man's eyes? ? ~A

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

Never seen Polyanna or read her..

Yes you were.

Seren

16 years 4 months ago

I dont need a central

I dont need a central scritiniser to tell me your an Asshole :) and I am not some small child that needs to run to someone with the smallest of bothers if I did that everytime someone attacked me here, jesus you got no idea ... your so ignornant its laughable ...and i've told you nothing ... you just 'think' you know your comment above is offensive and making victims of the battered all over again ... your as bad as the abusers continuing it on ... who the fuck made you the voice for battered woman ... and if you want to take that? to the central scrutinisier go for it ... I am simply past giving a fuck ... cause my orginal comment was not directed at you snd I didnt ask to get into a debate with you and made that clear ... but no you were intent on belittling me ... hope it made you feel better fucktard :) Jayne-Chloe Vix I am so sorry for having a go on your poem and I know that it was never meant to cause this fracas .. and this will be my last word ...

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

Thank you Jayne

I think that was a very revealing statement and of course a shade of what a poet of stature is capable of beyond the generic pap Neopoets has published over the time you have been a member and garnered through your "other " self the trust and goodwill of so many of the Spotlight positions. It's not my style. Being hateful is not either and I forgive your outburst. I hold no ill will , I only want honest debate and where ignorance and misinformation muddies the waters I will gladly apologise . As I already have to m FW and now to you because writing a criticism or a comment is certainly not meant to either break people or break them down to this. |It seems that honesty has finally arrived at your shore and I look forward to a change of style and content from your usual.... Theo ps. give it time and we will be on talking terms again . Love and healing rays.

Seren

16 years 4 months ago

love and healing rays ??? I

love and healing rays ??? I dont think a compliant could be construed as love Kal ... I am sorry I lost my temper, I belittled myself ... and that wont happen again ... I have no excuse except that I a dumb broad thats never read some book and lived anywhere that I never heard of half the things you spoke about?that makes me niave and a spastic ... Jayne-Chloe

Lunegirl

16 years 4 months ago

17 years Jayne. Tonight i

17 years Jayne. Tonight i will have a 18 sips of my wine to you. one for each of the years you were in that situation and didn't break and one big one for getting out. I would drink more but i have a three month to look after and don't think its a good mix lol. Your a tough, strong woman from what i can glean not knowing you and i say here is to not being broken. It doesn't matter how educated you are. when you are going through that, the mindset is in such a place that all the education in the world won't help you, It is about spirit. that is why as adults some of us pull through and some of us sadly cannot xx

Lunegirl

16 years 4 months ago

Thankyou Jayne, I have been

Thankyou Jayne, I have been really shoked by the responce to this, the ones we think are naff often get the thumbs up lol. You know how things are with the violence thing, this one was a realived lighthearted write that just came to me. I have read all the comments and think i will rethink this piece as it obviously hold some power in debates. Thankyou for your lovely comments and support Jayne. OOOh i forgot to mention that i think this piece was subconciously inspired by one of brians writes that was fantastic. love to you, keep up with all the good work vicki xxx

Kailashana

16 years 4 months ago

Isn’t this ironic, Kal?

Isn't this ironic, Kal? Imo, it is better for you to stand up for what men do wrong beginning with the religious persecutions done under *protection*. Leave Lolita alone, whether or not her name is Sharon. Nabokov wrote of taboos in a time when such things were only whispered about. My question is not whether children are or are not sacrosanct (yes they are) but are they sexual beings... years ago most kids played doctor and now the pendulum has swung so far that 5 year olds are accused of sexually harassment and 10 yr olds are jailed. Yes, I agree that many mothers turn a blind eye to their boyfriends or husbands when they should be protecting their children, however, the world out there is a shitty place where parents *sell* their children in one way or another. And the only justice we can do is to speak about children's sexuality, at least when the hormones kick in. And I remember the youngest *child* gave birth at the age of 5. Teach them boundaries. Teach them how to recognize being used as an *object*. Balance is the key in a world that is steadily unbalanced. We are living in an age of sexual slavery and piracy. We are living in an age when the sexual exploits of stars, athletes, politicians are media headlines, are a way of dumbing down the population so no one has to deal with real issues such as poverty, war, etc. There's a healthy median somewhere, we just haven't found it as a species. ~A

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

Please feel free to post a proposal...

Yes Anni get a proposal together and feel free to publish it here ; lets just speculate a title perhaps.." An Educative guide to parents introducing Sexual exploitation and avoiding being Objectified , de-humanised and exploited" part one. Part two could approach " Sexual Slavery and nine year olds, do 's and don't s ", " Boundaries of play Involving sex ". Excuse me for fro drawing an exasperated sigh . k

Kailashana

16 years 4 months ago

You’re being facetious

You're being facetious right now and I won't talk with you because you don't want to see the whole picture. It's why you and Dan had that blowout. It's why you have engendered female anger here... something you were not quite prepared for, eh? For others here. I post this: There is a line between kids being kids, and kids reenacting what they see, are taught. It's how prejudices continue, and how victims become abusers. But not NOT ALL VICTIMS BECOME ABUSERS... so there's something else at play. I for one, will not have any man describing, denying or altering my sense of womanhood ie sexuality. And I will stand my ground for disallowing the perpetuation (stinking thinking) of true criminality/sexual exploitation in or out of the home front, which is based solely on INTENT, be it overt or covert, acknowledged or stemming from ignorance. So be it. Nor am I afraid to say my peace. ~A

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

Even You don't want you have said here

Things are closer than they appear in the mirror...

Kailashana

16 years 4 months ago

And yes Kal. We all mirror

And yes Kal. We all mirror one another. But don't forget mirrors always give a distorted image....based on the mirror of one's own perception. Few of us are without blind spots which occlude *true vision*. Did you know a true mirror was available? (I mean for the sense of seeing oneself PHYSICALLY as others see us?) http://www.truemirror.com/ ~A

kaligantsaros

16 years 4 months ago

Sorry got no time for mirrors ..

got 9 year old to "educate"

lyz

16 years 4 months ago

My oh my

Yep yep yep. I see one and only one big outburst here, sorry Kal, it is you. I neither have read or seen this Lolita film book, whatever, but if I had and I did not like the preview or whatever, i would decline both book and film. You have me wondering though, what are you putting into your childs head, and the way you have above attacked, not commented, these woman, and maybe many more, but the worst has come out in you. You do have a very strong view on a lot of things you class as immoral, so how do you know about the story of Lolita unless you read or saw. Now that is odd, why would a grown man want to know the story. I will have to check it out and see for myself, but if it is that bad, I might leave it. You can not sweep things under the carpet and as for Vickis poem, If she has written about her own freedom of speech and sex, so what. You know I consider you all my friends and if I see any of you unjustly critisized I do feel obliged to say something. You, Kal, went a little too far. Please reread all that has been batted across the board, and as for naming a child Lolita, so, pretty name. A friend of my daughters comes here, could not get a better kid. She is sweet, and yes at her fine age of 20, pure. I wont go on but I am being nice, I could say a hell of a lot more. Jayne is my friend and you have no right to speak such rot to her, or Anna, These are two women that are respected and deserve to be spoken to, not bitten at. As for the poem, I must be mad, I enjoyed this creative write, hear, hear Vicki. I feel Kal, you have no respect for women the way you feel it is your given right to say what oyu say, weird. Sorry, but only dirty old men vist the bookstore and the movies, when there is something sexually controversial on. Boy oh boy, I am the first person to defend the rights of kids, but hey, this after all is only a poem. What did you do after you read or saw Lolita? As much as this. Sorry again, treat with respect. Lyz.

Lunegirl

16 years 4 months ago

Wow

Hey Lyz Defender of friends, Im pleased you enjoyed the write, it was tongue in cheek and not meant to be seriouse as ive said above. THANKYOU vicki ; ) x