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Two have loved

 We could have touched the skyTogether
But the downward hill 
we journeyed
As erratic boulders
Speeded our decline
So we rolled
Each to seperate verge
In view,
but focused
On different terrains
Diverse contours

Desire put on hold

What is there to learn
Within that pain of denial
Loving doesn't end with the loosing
Life doesn't end with loss
— seabhac, Oct 11, 2009

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Seren

Seren

16 years 8 months ago

Dear Liz

I am sorry tonight I cannot give you the response you need my friend this is just wonderful ... but touched a raw nerve in me ... in other words you did your job ... with kudos dear liz Love and higgest bugs Jayne x x
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 8 months ago

Just reaching out was enough

Thanks Jayne, sorry for the response I gave you to this. Please take care of yourself and I look forward to more great reads from you in the future. Hugs Liz
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 8 months ago

Perceptive of you

Yes this was written a few months ago, some changes were made as I am sure will happen again in time. I thought a poem was taken on its own merit not likened to a row of other previous ones, good or bad. Life would be very boring for the writer and the reader if we churned out the same stuff. However I do value your insight,damning as you have put it and without the negatives you have some valid points. Yes I am in a different place at the moment but sometimes it is good to take stock of that place by looking at where you have come from and what you have gone through to get to the now. I do appreciate your time taken to read and comment
Kailashana

Kailashana

16 years 8 months ago

I love your entire response

I love your entire response to Theo. This is how to take criticism without being offended. Brava! "Yes I am in a different place at the moment but sometimes it is good to take stock of that place by looking at where you have come from and what you have gone through to get to the now." I especially love the line I quoted above. Life is a journey; as such we need a map, and if we don't know where we are, we won't know our destination. Hugs, Anna
Kailashana

Kailashana

16 years 8 months ago

I know what you are saying,

Seabhac, I know what you are saying, and so do you; perhaps if you look at it with today's eyes, you'll see the thread that needs to be unraveled. Love, Anna
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 8 months ago

Thanks Anna

I have found an end to that thread now and I am holding on real hard, unravelling takes time though, reflection, friends and a sprinkle of laughter. I know you understand Love Liz
hugo la rosa

hugo la rosa

16 years 8 months ago

Dearest Seabhac:

A poem of loss, but also a poem of wisdom, a reality poem. You strike the cord of most of us with your surprising poems. Sometimes we think we have discovered a particular slant of your personality, and next time you surprise us taking a different detour. But that's what is all about in these our particular poetry worlds. Nice poem, very profound! Sincerely, Hugo
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 8 months ago

Yes Hugo

A poem of loss but also of hope. A mixed reception to this one which has been a great learning for me. I have been swept up in this new world of Poetry, a land of Myth and Magic of lost souls and murderous pens and all the while I have got to know the writers by the sharing of the written words. I love it very much and it fills a void I never even knew I had. To share this with others that I am slowly beginning to know is wonderful. Thank you for taking the time to read but it is the insight you reflect of my poems is a precious gift indeed. With very best wishes Liz
Candlewitch

Candlewitch

16 years 8 months ago

hello

I have to agree with Hugo on every point he makes. There is much wisdom here. Very deep. I like these lines, as they feel, to me, to be the heart beat of the poem: Still in view But surrounded by different terrains Contact was broken Perspective changed Now each with different microcosms, A world apart Always, Cat
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 8 months ago

Heart of the matter

Clever Cat, you have indeed touched the heart of this poem. Thank you for your visit. Liz
L

lyz

16 years 8 months ago

Finally at the bottom

A love lost, sad. I agree with Hugo as well, He is a great thinker that man, me, I love that it gave to me that you have moved on, even though you still love, like ,it just has to be. I loved the read and I think you have written a great poem. Love Lyz. XX
A

Arrow

16 years 8 months ago

I like the metaphor

*but wish you'd made it more strongly, i.e., We, as boulders, (We were boulders Raced with too much speed (racing with too much speed) *The hill slopped (sloped?) down *I find the end leaves me a little flat, the question a little weak. I wonder how some reorganization would work because there are some stronger lines earlier on. These two strike me as powerful ending lines, esp. since a change in perspective seems to be the core of this poem. Contact was broken Perspective changed I enjoyed this.
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 8 months ago

Thanks Arrow

When I read the changes you made on Sophies poem and how they had changed the flow and body of the poem I am inspired to work with this poem to better it. I think the suggestions you have taken the time to consider are very valid even down to the sloppy slope. I think the ending will find its own way when I play with any changes. Thanks you for your thoughts on this , very constructive. Kind Regards Liz
themoonman

themoonman

16 years 8 months ago

Liz...

This poem and the commentaries are what Neopoet is all about! And your wonderful responses Liz should be documented and taught in "responding to comments school" Everyone here has made their own valid points, it is up to you as the author to discern what works for you... and I have no doubt that you will. I enjoyed the poem and the comments received... but most especially the way you handle yourself... Richard
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 8 months ago

Richard

I am honoured and inspired to do my best for this poem. Thank you Liz
W

Wafi

16 years 8 months ago

A Painful Hope!

Profound indeed, dear Liz! First write that I am reading of your work and honestly, Liz, it deeply touched me. I really loved how you compared the pain of seperation or loss with the rolling boulders, the hill being your world that collapsed! Pianful image but a great production of your thoughts and words! Enjoyed the rest of the poem too. As Hugo said a reality poem! My fav lines "Across from one another Still in view But surrounded by different terrains Contact was broken Perspective changed" Looking forward to reading more of your work... Sincerely, Wafi "Culture, location and beliefs; All vanish with love!" ~Afzal Shauq~
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 8 months ago

Wafi you shine another light

It so amazes me how words can affect and effect such varied responses in people depending on their life experiences. I never really realised why I had used the image of the hill in this but your comment has made me realise that I had climbed the steep hard hill and now I was on top but the momentum of life and the feeling of being 'over the hill' was just too fast for me. Thank you for the insight in your comments
Bonitaj

Bonitaj

16 years 8 months ago

to have loved and lost....

Interesting how your title and the word play on it, drew me in to read more! Magnificient piece Liz! Strikes to the very heart of all who have been through a life changing "love-loss" experience! Well done! Bonita j
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 7 months ago

Delighted you visited this one

One thing this poem has definatly defined for me is that loss of love has no preference to gender and love is one of those unified emotions planet wide. Thanks Bonita
O

orgami

16 years 7 months ago

"loosing"

So glad we are all different I love this as it is but then Im different as mentioned above I love boulders and as a young person would tip them down hills through the woods on my walks Now I leave them be and being this age that I am Forty five with the mid-life stuff going on even for me and my eccentric path I value this poem I love the whole way its put down simple and full of its action and reserve in rest like a musical peice (how I loved the subway with its jazz or cello classical players and voice) I had to go re read this again Im not tired rested and fed focused Its beautiful to me in my wide range of experience in life and disorder and as an artist poet I so relate to its wisdom Thank You
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 7 months ago

Boulders yes.

I used to do the same as a child and then realised how many homes I was destroying by moving the boulders ( is that age, learning or empathy? ) I so love your responses orgami, sheer poetry in themselves. Thank you for taking me on your minds journey, if only for a little while.As for age i have a few years up on you and hope my mid life is by but boy am I having fun in this second half. Best Wishes Seabhac
B

bjp

16 years 7 months ago

Dear Elizabeth,

You are doing a great jop reducing the occasion of pronouns. And the general look of your poetry is improving. Still, there remains good reason for writers to hate editors. Today, I will focus on redundancy, cliché and ackwardness. We could have touched the sky Together you and I ["together" + "you and I" = redundancy] But the downward hill On which we journeyed ["on which" = redundancy] As erratic boulders [good] Speeded our decline [good] So we rolled [redundant but good] Each to seperate verge [good] In view, but focused [good] On different microcosms ["microcosms" = awkward] A world apart ["world apart" = cliché] Your needs now different to mine [the line smacks of cliché] Desire put on hold What is there to learn Within that pain of denial Loving doesn’t end with the loosing [good new spin and well said] Life doesn’t end with loss Overall, the improvements get the stars. Brian
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 7 months ago

Brian you are a breath of fresh air

It takes time to go through a poem and much skill to not just see the awarkdness in it but to be able to give the wonderfully constructive critism you have gifted to me. I will print it off and retire to my lair to contemplate. This is real growth Brian and again I thank you Very Best Wishes Liz
Kailashana

Kailashana

16 years 7 months ago

Liz, I like the beginning of

Liz, I like the beginning of your original version, apolgize for being too tired to print them out to put them side by side, including Brian's critique. I do have faith, that you, however, will. Love. ~A