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if I'd known: a metaphor

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if
I'd
known:
a
metaphor

with the raw sun
lighting morning sky,

my friend and I walk
eastward along the sidewalk
on the north of

Plum
in tandem
together,

comfortable in
our stillness, at pleasant peace
and at fair, leisured

pace, with our hands in
partial clasp at cuff stations
beneath our backs---till,

coarsely
breaking
silence,

I ask, do you by
any chance know where it is

we are
going?

well, no, not really,
he answers, his uneasiness
plain by his tone. as

a matter of fact,
I thought you knew. indeed I
supposed---I trusted---

that you
would know.

know what? you mean where
we're going?

well, yes. isn't that
why we're walking along,
so that we can get

somewhere,
some ... place?

I laugh. if I'd known
you would not know where we are
going, it's doubtful

I would have joined you
on your walk.

hah! he says, chuckling---
a bit nervously, I thought.
nor I you. I mean,

I would not have joined
you on
your walk.

the raw sun yet
lighting morning sky,

my friend and I walk
eastward on the sidewalk
at the north of

Plum
in tandem
together,

less than comfortable
in our re-formed silence, our
uneasinesses

in fact quite
prominent,
palpable.

after a time sets
in, I volunteer, I guess
we neither one knows

where we're
going, do we?

a weighty comma,
or maybe dash, passes,
and in its wake my

friend notes---rather too
dourly, I think to myself---
I guess not.

me neither,
I say.

and we continue
our walk.

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Seren

Seren

16 years 9 months ago

Delighted to read this one Chuck

I adored taking this soft walk with you .... little confused about were we where going to end up but then we continued to walk LOL I loved this one ... lulled me some what much love and hugz Jayne x x "We did not change as we grew older; we just became more clearly ourselves. Lynn Hall" ...
Candlewitch

Candlewitch

16 years 9 months ago

LOL

No problem here, just turn around and retrace your footsteps... or you could continue walking into the unknown and possibly discover something wonderful... Always, Cat
M

Marie-I-Be

16 years 9 months ago

suggestions

Hi, Chuck. Very pleasant feeling throughout. On one read-through, I spotted three areas calling for fixing. See how you like these suggestions: In the case up top where you have ... my friend and I walk eastward along the sidewalk on the north side of ... I suggest you remove the word "side." Sets up for a nice flow into the words you have just following those. Where you have ... I ask, do you, by any chance know where it is ... please remove that second comma. In the case near the end where you have ... my friend and I yet walk eastward on the sidewalk at the north side of ... I suggest removing "yet" and "side" and relining this way: my friend and I walk eastward on the sidewalk at the north of Enjoyed the read. I'll come back again to see how it looks.
B

barbsdad2003

16 years 9 months ago

This is so ridiculous, my ...

present plight. I concur wholeheartedly in your suggested revision/tweak/edit. Problem? Yes! The goldarned EDIT function isn't working for me. I've now tried three times to make the changes ... and three times failed. Maybe I should just delete the whole thing and post anew. Don't know what else to do about it. Thanx much, Chuck PS: I've now tried a fourth time. The software still refuses; it forces me to accept the original. I'm on the verge of deleting the whole thing. At least then I can post the better version. PPS: And now I've sent a message to Andrew. Hope he can enlighten me as to how to succeed in my present attempt(s) at productive change. Either that ... or perhaps he can refer me to someone who can.
Nordic cloud

Nordic cloud

16 years 9 months ago

Friends don’t need to know

Friends don't need to know where they are going, just going is a lovely pass time. This is fun too as we too go along with it and hesitate with you and wait for the answers and this gives the poem a strange haunting presence. Yours ann of Norway
D

Diatom Shells

16 years 9 months ago

hi

like walkiing with no specifics it makes it more fun that way. I've always loved a mystery love always -diatom shells
B

barbsdad2003

16 years 9 months ago

Appreciate the comments ...

... every one above. But --- but does anyone get/understand the metaphor (and/or how far it reaches)? Which, to be frank, is the only reason I wrote the piece. And the only reason I've here posted it. With ongoing affection, Chuck
Seren

Seren

16 years 9 months ago

Chuck

To be honest I just reread this I am going to tell you my impressions I am not good with metaphors hun ... but I saw it as a solitary person having a conversation with himself and being at a sense of confusion till he became content in it ... hey I am always wrong and I am most probably now but you have my impressions ... much Love and hugz Jayne x x "We did not change as we grew older; we just became more clearly ourselves. Lynn Hall" ...
B

barbsdad2003

16 years 9 months ago

Your "till he ...

became content" is right on. And thanx for the revisit. It must be my lucky morning: The fix/edit has taken. Hugs right back, Chuck
I

Ink Dragon

16 years 9 months ago

Chuck,

I am late - yet again - in catching up on your posts. Saying "I enjoyed the walk" is not enough here, as I don't think it is an enjoyable walk those two in your poem are having. Rather, their walk is overshadowed by insecurity, fear even. It seemed to me as if a blind man is leading a blind man... Now, why can't you edit this piece? I think incorporating Marie's suggestions would give this poem the finishing touches. If this problem persists, please report it to the technical team. Yours, ~Nina
B

barbsdad2003

16 years 9 months ago

Yesterday ...

it wouldn't allow me to edit; today it did. Don't know why the difference. Must be because I arrived later at the library today. Or perhaps the 55-degree weather I braced myself against on this morning's walk. Thanx, Chuck
B

bjp

16 years 9 months ago

Dear Charles,

This is a quite wonderful variation on an old chestnut. I like very much. You do so well with your written arts. Brian
B

barbsdad2003

16 years 9 months ago

I can see between ...

your lines that you've caught the import of this piece. Flattering. Which of course will get you just about anything. And gladly on the part of the giver. Thanx much, Chuck
Seren

Seren

16 years 9 months ago

LOL this is to Chuck and Brian Dear you two

Will one of you put me out of my misery and explain the metaphor ... and as Keith (professor) will tell you I am a curious creature I have thought of a couple of idea's since Brians comment but will someone please tell me ?? ... will try and sleep and see if anyone answers LOL much love big hugz and smiles Jayne x x P.S I had thought of someone battling with death and finally ceded to death hes content ... or paying the ferryman god my minds been some places trying to work this one out ... "We did not change as we grew older; we just became more clearly ourselves. Lynn Hall" ...
B

barbsdad2003

16 years 9 months ago

Please refer to ...

Marie's comment below titled Metaphorically Speaking. She nails it. At least as well as I would. Probably better than. Thanx. Appreciating your curiosity, Chuck
M

Marie-I-Be

16 years 9 months ago

Metaphorically Speaking

Chuck, I'm glad you've invited this input. I gave you no stars in my first comment because I wanted you to first clean this up. I then was going to come back to see how it looks and to expand on my perceptions of the content. Because you're having trouble editing, I'm giving you your well-deserved five stars in advance (although it's abundantly clear the starring system has faults). I thought the most basic elements were immediately self-evident when I read this the first time, and now I see more. This piece has a wonderful metaphoric quality which touches me with gentleness and hope. I reiterate it has a pleasant feeling throughout; and that's especially because of your skill in conveying innocence and simplicity. You've incorporated unity and lightness by using words such as these: in tandem, comfortable, stillness, peace, leisured pace, chuckling, continue. (I like your repetition of the quietly unifying concepts.) You bring in some contrasting elements through your use of these words: raw, cuff stations, coarsely breaking silence, uneasiness, doubtful, nervously, less than comfortable, re-formed, weighty. And then there's the: I trusted. I think you and your friend are walking hand in hand with LIFE. You demonstrate that we are all traveling through our days without really knowing in particular where we are going. The saying that life is a journey packs more power than most life-livers realize. In your piece you emphasize with softly ringing undertones that we often fool ourselves into thinking we know where we are going, while the truth is that we don't really need to foresee so much advance detail. Chosen paths often diverge from what we've expected, and precise expectations can sometimes lead to disappointment, confusion, and blaming. Personally, I like to allow life to unfold before me, and I make the wisest preparations I'm able even while realizing I can handle what I face as it comes, preferably also with wisdom. And so to expect the unexpected is to feel comforted, in my world. I can plan for certain contingencies, but not all can be known because there is no Life Map (although some would like to hand us one and instruct us to follow it, such as people stuck within humanity-constricting religious groups). Your reference to "cuff stations" conjures images of binding, of freedom-robbing. Meticulous selection of words (messages) here and there designed for thought-provocation, Chuck. In my mind's eye, I'm picking up flashes of hidden coaxes such as acceptance, congeniality, togetherness, friendship. This poem is a modeling representation (dare I say sermon!) of a philosophy of life we would all do well to follow. Our future is not fore-ordained. Positives and negatives await everyone, and that's about all we can trust to happen. We can impact ourselves and others limitedly, but with an understanding that control exists only in each individual moment and that often we fail anyway in our attempts to control. While we are "all in this together," we are also each of us alone---with our thoughts and beliefs and also with our actions. My friend---your friend---cannot be surely relied upon for direction and answers. We can take our strength from our own okayness and through staying connected to ourselves. And sometimes okayness blooms from discomfort. I love the messages and wise guidance you are kindly giving your readers here. This is inspirational. Thank you. ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
B

barbsdad2003

16 years 9 months ago

You've nailed the tone in ...

... an expert's way. I in particular note your words acceptance, congeniality, togetherness, friendship. They're all there. In there/out there. And so intended by me. As I sometimes say---and like to think---implication's often stronger than overt (read blunt) statement. And to model's stronger than to explain/describe. I can tell you're well aware of those factors. They undergird the best of writing by the best of writers. Especially the classics. I've now added "a metaphor" to the title. Something which I think will help readers to think in that vein/along that line while reading. The scene described by me in the piece, the walk with my friend, the conversation---all of it---is a fiction. Made up. The point was the metaphor. And I think I've made it sufficiently. Especially now with your assistance. And thank you much for that. Hugs, Chuck
M

Marie-I-Be

16 years 9 months ago

well done

I like the title adjustment, Chuck. Clarifies, and it encourages the reader to allow for insights to flow while experiencing your poem. I like your take on my take and on me. Ah, now to develop an expertise in the actual living of life! Hugs.
Nordic cloud

Nordic cloud

16 years 9 months ago

Do you mean the metaphor of life?

I haven't read the long comment above, perhaps I should. I saw it as a metaphor for life and as such it is a very good one. It reminds me also of the Irish joke "Och Paddy I thought i saw y'u in the street th' other day, but when we came together it was neither of us:" It has the same character don't you think? Yours Ann of Norway
B

barbsdad2003

16 years 9 months ago

Yup ...

... yup. You've got it! And as to your question re same character, as to tone and lightness, yup, yup. You've got that, too. Yours right back, Chuck
weirdelf

weirdelf

16 years 9 months ago

chuck, i came to this late.

knowing how desperatly frustrating the way the net gives and takes away arbitrarily. This is is the first time in 2 years I have seen you caught up in a controversy, besides our silly billabong thing. And I think, my friend, it is a false one. Sarah called you as no-one who knows you would, and, this is the point, on different terms. We need outspoken people like her. Cut her some slack, ok? Cheers, Jess "The political arena leaves one no alternative, one must either be a dunce or a rogue." Emma Goldman
B

barbsdad2003

16 years 9 months ago

I have four ...

serious questions to ask: (1) Who is Sarah? (2) What controversy? (3) What do you mean here by "called"? (4) Perhaps this'd be better handled via Priv. Mess.? Honest, I've no idea as to what your answers might be. I know I don't have them. Thanx, Chuck
Janice Pearce

Janice Pearce

16 years 9 months ago

if I'd known: a metaphor

Chuck, You just keep writing the stuff I enjoy so much~~ _____________________________________________________ Income-tax forms should be more realistic by allowing the taxpayer to list "Uncle Sam" as a dependent Anonymous