What Will the Preachers Do When Satan’s Soul Is Saved

Hi Ann, I'm making a quantum leap (?) here, interpreting *my* poem *Poetry is not Beautiful" to which you reference. Saved--is not that what every religion, every philosophy, medical or psychological, social practice, or World War, conflict we have encountered our whole lifetime would so engender...as if anything can or will save us from what is? That makes us all responsible and we can't blame the *devil*....whether or not s/he is in the details.... Love. ~A "We have to try to get rid of the notion of time. And when you have an intense contact of love with nature or another human being, like a spark, then you understand that there is no time and that everything is eternal." Paulo Coelho

What light do we choose to bind I don't why we forget our parents time You know this is a poison to me when the young see the parents without a key This must be the devils dream to break the bonds between the good and bad

include a god, or all those titles, the Buddhist's have no individual personified deity, neither do the most of the religions of the east, the idea of good and bad do not exist, they are one and the same thing, the two sides of the coin so to speak, non duality in other words. One cannot exist without the other. We are all talking here as westerners brought up in the religions of the west and have not the understanding of other ways of looking at it all, they have their Christ-like beings who lived to tell of the possibilities of harmony and love, but they are not worshipped like gods, or God. I am not an expert on religions but have long been inspired by the writings of the eastern aesthetic attitude to life and nature and like that view of our existence. It is perhaps more an attitude to life than a religion. I found a quote but am not sure exactly where it came from:- "Man 1014, is the most ferocious of all the animals, man is the measure, the limit, the beginning and the end of all things. Mountains are in themselves only lumps of earth and stone, it is the mind of man, of this man, which makes them teachers, comforters, monsters and enemies." Monk Ryokan:- Our life in this world - to what shall I compare it? Its like an echo resounding through the mountains and off into the empty sky. Or...Monogatari:- Living in this world - to what shall I compare it? Its like a boat rowing out at the break of day, leaving no trace behind. Yours with respect Ann P.S. I do see what you mean about the western religions they do have the same God although they don't seem to be able to see that.

the feeling's quite mutual and I'm delighted by the existential questions and depth you've been posing as of late. Mark W. "An insult is just someone who hates you making a noise to indicate their hatred, a barking dog. Criticism is someone trying to help you, by telling you something about yourself that you were a little too comfortable not knowing. " ~ David Wong

and got into a dispute with another participant. This was effectively and oppressively handled with the edict, "No more questions!" I'm still in favor of questions. Regarding questions: "Am I crazy?" - well, I don't answer loaded ones ;)

usually I would leave such an ignorant statement alone, but I've got to defend my people. For starters, there are many folks you could quote from who are far more respected than Jesse Ventura. Enough said on that. Secondly, earlier you admitted that you did not study Christianity, and knew very little about it. Thus to fling a comment like "any religious place is for the weak minded" smacks of ignorance. I don't necessarily blame you, after all what can you know about that which you haven't been exposed? Let's consider a question: "What is a church?" Or, more importantly "What is THE church?" Very roughly defined "the church" is a group of people who believe in and follow God. It is not Catholic, Protestant, nor Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, nor Iroquious. It is all, and none of these things. While you may have heard of things like "the Catholic church," and "the Lutheran church," etc. if you look at the Bible you will see that God makes no distinction about what a person calls Him. I truly believe, based on my reading of the Bible that "the church" consists of people of all faiths. God reached out to a man named Cornelius in the book of Acts, chapter 10, though he was not a "Christian" per se. The same thing happened in Genesis chapter 20, and at other times throughout the Bible. But I digress, that's not the issue in question here. Throughout history my people have been crucified, burned alive, fed to animals, had their skin removed, been torn apart, speared, beheaded, and further. All in the name of Christ. I can assure you that those men, women, and children who died those horrible deaths were not weak minded. At many times they could have denounced the church, denounced Jesus. It was the faith and strength of God that let them look death in the eye and remember that there is promised for us a better place. Now I know that part of the reason I've been basically liked on this site is because of the laws of plurality, "live and let live," so to speak. I realize that, and am not easily offended. I also am very aware that people from all faiths have made great sacrifices. Hence when I say "my people" I mean exactly what I mean when I say "the Church," and that is all who sincerely seek the Great Creator. There is no weakness in that. Yours, Mark W. Proverbs 27:6 "Wounds from a sincere friend are better than many kisses from an enemy."

their is nothing better then a good debate by intelligent people!! PR, now that's bull, I know that PR is not your stick. you are the guy who puts the question out there and waits for the echo to come back. That's why you get the good response, or bad. The point being that it works for you. thanks, Eddie Life is like a railroad track that leads to many junctures, if you stand on the track Love comes speeding along and runs you over!! Splat!!!!