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Sweet things & freedom

Is this new sweet thing.... as sweet as the apples you care for?
& all of my concerns.... about who you might not be there for
You plant sacred things - you might grow them.
You pluck sweeter strings - you might get to know them.
You opened me up till there were no more boundries.
A bowl or a vessel. The garden, the foundries.
The smithy, you pound on the metal
The sculpter, the pioneer, eager to settle.
Hollow me out so there's space, open handed
I have forgiven these things they demanded
Every time I awake
I feel you between breath, no give & no take
Gentle & easy despite this
You meet my mouth in the sweet silent night kiss

You spoke of "these unruly things"
My orange curls, my flailing strings
The harmony of the undermined
A humble low drone, though undefined
Could you actually really be
such a shining thing in this 'setting free'?
Love is an opening vessel
Kissed to my curve, breast to my trestle
My bridge beyond the clouds
We are not quiet angels, we're devils out loud
& our breath is as fierce as our hearts might beat
Yet beyond all of this....
                                       ........it is still apple sweet.
You with your truth for a crown
& me with my courage, this soft, silken gown
We are the royalty here.
Free, we are free... to give up the fear
Transcending tradition
we shift the position
the paradigm is foiled & solved
Rigidity gives way.....  dissolved
Free because love must be ONLY that way.
Free... as you do... as you be.... as you say.



— Cloudthings, Feb 02, 2009

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Region, Country: Australia, regional Victoria, AUS

Favorite Poets: So many... Rumi, Spike Milligan, Keats. Many of the Neopoet clan, past & present. A myriad of song writers, Dylan, Jackson Browne, Lior, & I must add the poetic influence of painters, sculptors & creators across the world... Life really, especially the sky.

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Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 4 months ago

New to this

New on here, or anything like it, I write songs generally speaking, though they translate ok on occassion to poetry... mostly that's how they begin anyway, I just put them to music from time to time.. I just made this up as I went for a first post, pretty sloppy, & it was late, but sometimes I don't mind that kind of fragility... Perspective is such a great thing... So feel free to pull it apart, I know the metre is a bit erratic, I wanted that, the subject content feels uncertain still so it's what I was feeling, I get that it isn't as smooth to digest like that though... for me its all about passion, when it's driven from that space you get the sense of what I wanted to evoke... But that's not for me to say really since I'm putting it out there for others to read... Guess you can tell me! A
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originalstyle

17 years 4 months ago

i really enjoyed this,

i really enjoyed this, ....the erratic metre...well I could care less...in fact i love the ebb and flow of emotions that result in any event isn't life always a bit erratic? The harmony of the undermined A humble low drone, though undefined...beautiful looking forward to more! take care james
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 4 months ago

Hey, ta James

Wow this is my first feedback James...& ta for being so welcoming & lovely... You know I really enjoyed what I read of your work also so maybe we resonate a little... I am soooo enjoying this freedom of being in contact with other like minded creatures... it's gorgeous!.... & I'm counting down the hour til I can post another piece on here... One day in & I am addicted already! I think I will post one I already wrote rather than freeflow stuff like this last was... Though I love stream of consciousness stuff.. I've been doing "The Artists Way" for about the 5th time... If you don't know about it you should look it up... Julia Cameron.. I only wish I had 3 times the spare time so I could spend more time exploring the courageous & generous souls on this site! Thanks for "getting" the changeability sense of that work... New or budding love can be so erratic when you start really wanting to believe in it, but it can feel so uncertain, & writing in the moment like that ... I sometimes love to play amongst the chaos of the unknown, there are pockets of such sweet redemption that are a pleasure to thread together, I guess that was what I was doing... I know that sounds so abstract, but I reckon you'd get it. Cheers & glad to have met you. Anni May I wish to walk gracefully..... so as not to spill water.
themoonman

themoonman

17 years 4 months ago

Cloudthings...

Welcome to the site... your poem has some memorable lines within it... you are already aware of the meter being a bit choppy... the content was refreshing, although a bit sticky but hey... love can be that way ehhh... the ending... I thought was very good... to me... this was a very enjoyable read and a very good one to enter into Neopoet with... I do hope you enjoy yourself here... jump in... read poems and make comments... make yourself known... Richard
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 4 months ago

Hey thanks Richard, I AM

Hey thanks Richard, I AM loving this & I am actually excited about putting something up here that is a little more "worked" (as I suggested in my response to the last comment), the hour is half way up... Yeah, "sticky" I didn't get so much... could you elaborate? I would be guessing as to what you mean there, & I really am interested to pin what your point is. It's a valuable thing this process, I feel certain there's a lot to learn & I'm excited about refining a process I tend to be sloppy with sometimes.. In this case it was intentionally so to some extent, since I was just freeflowing, & didn't want to limit that too much, & maybe that's not such a great thing on this site, first day though & I am learning already how to manage my writing better under different conditions. Anyway, ta for the warm welcome & support & your feedback, it's just great, & so generous... Seems like a fantastic group of people here, not to mention the pleasure of the writing.. I am off to read your work now.. I'll "see" you around I imagine. Thanks again. Anni May I wish to walk gracefully..... so as not to spill water.
themoonman

themoonman

17 years 4 months ago

Sticky...

lol... It was an attempt at humor... sorry... I thought your poem was a very good one... Richard
Eduardo Cruz

Eduardo Cruz

17 years 4 months ago

A,

I agree with Richards comment, the end is extremal move. Good passion in this write, the second to last stanza is beautiful: "You with your truth for a crown & me with my courage, this soft, silken gown We are the royalty here. Free, we are free… to give up the fear Transcending tradition we shift the position the paradigm is foiled & solved Rigidity gives way….. disolved= (dissolved) Free because love must be ONLY that way. Free… as you do… as you be…. as you say." well done!!! thanks, Eddie
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 4 months ago

Truth & courage as humble & sensuous adornments!

Wow, I feel really honoured to get such generous feedback on my first write here, I am almost feeling overwhelmed actually... & you guys all write so beautifully yourselves... I am so new here I am still learning to navigate my way around, so I was surprised when I discovered how many feedback posts there were... & as I work my way down I feel so moved by this acknowledgement of my first work here. Now first up ta for the spell check... oops, didn't even notice it so ta.. It's interesting you picked that latter part, I was unsure about it, wondering if it might not be a little too cliche... I had a sense of the "crown" NOT being any traditional overt pompous paraphernalia, rather a really noble & quite humble invisible halo of integrity... hence the assertion of losing "tradition" & "subverting the dominant paradigm". & as for the "gown", I really loved the concept that courage could be soft & pliable (again hence the response of looking at "loosing" rigidity - I was writing 'off the cuff' & responding to each thought process immediately as you can see), & even sensuous... Silk is such a sensuous tactile experience in my opinion... & courage is so often seen as a fierce, rigid & structured attribute, one we must bare & hold it like it's a heavy burdon, instead of a really beautiful thing we can step into & adorn ourselves with, with pleasure & grace... I have probably waffled about something you're not even interested in... (hmm, might be time to undertake some more study so I have an apropriate place to dissect things!!!!) Anyway, you know I admire your work also, so I feel honoured to have your kind acknowledgement. Look forward to more interraction. Cheers Anni May I wish to walk gracefully..... so as not to spill water.
Rett

Rett

17 years 4 months ago

Well, looks like they beat me to everything Anni

I have to ditto what they said on everything. I would like a bit smother flow, but what the heck. It is still GOOD! Welcome and jump in with both feet, let the mud squish up between your toes and enjoy yourself. Respectfully, Rett: "Next time you think you're perfect, walk on water."
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 4 months ago

Hah!!! fantastic Rett, LOVE

Hah!!! fantastic Rett, LOVE the metaphore... & it DOES feel like that too, all the more so with these warm comments coming in... I was loving this (first day) exploration on this site, feeling so grateful to be involved in what looked like such a good & generous community... & now I have discovered these feedback comments & the warmth & ease of them & I feel like I have found yet another part of my metaphorical tribe in a way... So thanks tons.. Oh & I am hoping you were hoping for a "smoother" flow, not a "smother" flow... chuckle!... I shall now go post a piece with a little more "smooth"... I tend to like a few edgy bits here & there though, not sure I'll ever completely iron it out for you, sorry, but I know that last one was a rough one, free-flow & emotional responivity, drove it to quite strange places. So thanks Rett & I look forward to reading more of you as well. I'm a happy "writey" girl today (tonight). Anni May I wish to walk gracefully..... so as not to spill water.
Nordic cloud

Nordic cloud

17 years 4 months ago

Written with passion

Yes the rhythm is like the rhythms of passion, its never a smooth run and you have been riding the poem like that of the wild stallion, the kind of horse you sit on and feel the electricity of his nerves through the saddle, an awesome feeling. I was happy to be ricocheted about in the sea of your words of passion. I agree with James. The first verse doesn't end with the panache of the last, I wonder if one could make it do so, it has a slight uneven length of pattern that troubles me, but the end must have given you goose pimples as when I finished my poem "Immediately" which I dashed of at a fair pace and which seems to have kept its pace, I wonder what you think of that one Anni? "Could you actually really be"....and on ca: 8 lines, I wonder if this part could be 'strammet inn'(N)- pulled together a tiny bit to make it perfect as the rhythm gets slightly veiled here for me. Who am I to criticise..... you are already great in my eyes(ears). I feel much less qualified to criticise as I am no erudite scholar, nor have I written poetry all my life although I have written and doing so am accused of writing poetically. So take my crits with a pinch of salt. You seem to have a natural talent and the music of your song has translated well into poetry because it is still there in the background even if Inaudible-to the ears! I do so look forward to more of your work with excitement. Yours Ann of Norway.
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 4 months ago

Oh Ann (of Norway… how

Oh Ann (of Norway... how delightful... you don't get that much around THESE parts!), again I am so very honoured... Did you get my message to you earlier today... (it is now 2:24am... crazy & should be asleep, but cannot resist the lure of this unfolding experience!!! Greedy thing I can be... hedonism sigh!). I had already noted a magnetic call to connect with you & here you are! As for my writing - For certain that whole thing could be reworked, no doubt at all... it was a freeflow thing, as a first, intentionally, since I knew not what to expect... & as SOON as I had posted it I was disapointed with the whole first section in fact... especially when I saw that THAT was the only visible part on the "dashboard" initially. I felt a sense of sadness, & made a comment to my friend who was on the phone, (& responsible for me discovering this site.. Thanks Craig), that it was not very inspiring & I doubted many would read it, the latter part was more apealing... If it weren't a rediculous hour I would go back & rework it now... it will have to wait now since I will be away for some days... Still, the feedback is great none-the-less... As I always tell my students it is in our "mistakes" & weaker areas that we learn so much in order to refine & progress to a better place in our art.. They really are our blessings. Oh I WILL try not to write another essay (almost too late huh?), but there is much I wanted to respond to & so much gratitude I wish to show, I feel so beautifully embraced by this fantastic community... it's a little like heaven isn't it... to be so immersed as I've already pointed out! I was humbled by your comments & lovely praise at my first write here... I have now posted my 2nd piece.. much smoother in metre, though a long one I admit... Too long for a song I thought after I wrote it. I nearly snipped the last verse out, & considered snipping it into two songs & reworking, but I liked the journey of it... I still wonder if the last verse should go... but you might be a better judge... back to my point, I do feel humbled since I have a great respect for all of these writers & their observations & feel blessed to be so welcomed... But you Ann, pulled me in especially... I wonder if this is common for you? & how delightful that you could relate to the sense of the ride being unpredictable... it is how I felt... hope & fear vying tentatively amid a myriad of other emotional assertions... so I loved your metaphor of the horsey thing, lovely imagery... though at times it was more like a bareback ride, the comfort of the saddle even denied... though the stallion thankfully not too skittish, with moments of lovely grace & ease... Almost lulling me to a false sense of security before another change of pace & direction... Ahh you do pull lovely imagery & inspiration, I knew you would. I am very much looking forward to having a read of the work you mention, & many more besides, thank you for your invitation to do so... As for the line you mention I will have a look, though it really was an intentional pause that one, I considered pacing it, but wanted that pause to draw one into the import of the lull, the query, the sense of baby unknown experience... the leap of faith taken already, & now behind the inner walls the small anxiety of deceit though doubted, still, present as a teeny possibility... still, the fact it unsettles you shows me it could have been done differently... as I said I will explore it... This IS exciting... I didn't realise how lazy I can be with my writing mostly it just sits in my books & will probably never be looked at again, I wonder from time to time why I do it for that reason... but there is no real answer but the fact that I am purely driven to do so have been for most of my life... You write .."“Could you actually really be”….and on ca: 8 lines, I wonder if this part could be ‘strammet inn’(N)- pulled together a tiny bit to make it perfect as the rhythm gets slightly veiled here for me."... I am unclear what you are actually saying... sorry I don't have schollarly language regarding poetry, would you mind elaborating? It just occured to me this could be a Norwegian terminology for pulled in... it's kind of onamatapeic or something??? There is an Island here "Norfolk Island" where prison ships washed up, with Welsh & other UK folk, & islnders from surrounding Isles... the language is a mix of pidgin English & old English that was preserved because the Isle was hard to get to & had little outside influence. The Norwegion words you write on your prof are reminiscent... (I love exploring language... as I expect you do) Lordy better STOP! sorry... look forward to many more discussions. Cheers & huge thanks.. (I feel in awe that you already feel I am great in your eyes... the feeling is very mutual.. I feel we are kindred at some level, I hope that isn't presumptuous.) 3 am I must sleep... but can't resist a peep at the poem of your you mention.. Night!!! Anni May I wish to walk gracefully..... so as not to spill water.
Nordic cloud

Nordic cloud

17 years 4 months ago

This passion

that seems to be expressing itself inside one so vividly that it veils our self criticism but enables us to sail out into a cloudless sky beyond, beyond the beyond and spin, dive, sing, shout as in a whirling Dervish dance or a meditational trance we ride on the point of the arrow of desire and joy to the heart of the source of all love and freedom, the screaming of thousands of birds, the fluttering of thousands of butterfly wings, the sweep and sway, thunder and swipping of the sea, the icy cold sharp splinters of lit up glaciers high in the mountains, the torpid heat of the dessert waiting at the peak of a sand-dune for the daily dose of damp from the sea mists, the throbbing din of towns, of crowds of animals, of roaring apes echoing through the skeleton of our beings in one great explosion of the senses- loud and yet so delicately soft floating on the pond like a flouncy feather... ..spent. Dear Anni, Answering your letter, "pulled you in" I was pulled in by the feelings we seem to have in common, I am not often so pulled in, I know few people in Norway well and like you I am a loner in some ways, although happy with my man too, it is he that is always there and a good companion, but not a poetry reader! He too loves the eastern aesthetic and philosophy. As you see by the above which I sent as soon as I had written it, just now, I can ride on the rhythm of things too!! and some. We seem to have to feel passionate to create, others craft a poem with erudite language and controlled metaphors, they too have their place but we have the ride of freedom, and as you say whether it be great or small in others eyes its our ride and we loved every minute of it didn't we so "tant pis" to them. And now we can jump from land to land on the wings of poetry and see visions we never dreamed of, whoopeee! (Uncle) John Bishop, conductor of the Adelaide Festival of music married my Aunt Margaret? Where is Dayleford? I must see for myself, I have never been to Australia but my sister lived in A. for 3 yrs and has been three times to visit since. Love to the land created by the Kangaroos in the Dreamtime, oh what wonderous things stir in the bush around you out there in that far off red coloured land, and to you from Ann of Norway.
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 4 months ago

Cascading noble steeds as sentences & words.

Hi Ann, yes I think your ride is even more wild than mine here, what fun... It just cascades really - & that's a lovely ride. Actually I did feel at one stage that there were so many lovely bundles of expression/experience & passion that I actually lost sight of the beauty of it at times... I needed to stop to catch the view. I guess that's why we have pauses, to absorb & appreciate the separate concepts.. But when you write it, it's easy to let it flow isn't it, in a lovely cascading waterful of sentiment as yours has. In any case, I was in for the ride & galloping madly through the imagery.. Later I found a desire to go back & taste that imagery in smaller doses, I would have missed too much if I had not allowed myself to do so, they are lovely lines that, viewed as single trees, stood beautifully in their own right, & a little obscured as a forest... Didn't mean to critique.. it is a lesson for me if anything, since I do love a bit of a galloping pace myself as you know. & as for being pulled I do love to connect & you seem to have such a warm heart. I am pleased you have a lovely companion.. I have been without for some time & have finally connected with somone who DOES like to write (& doesn't feel threatened by my writing), a new thing for me, & delightful. Anyway, I love that you did the free flow piece here & I am yet to go & reread the poem you initially suggested,(apols, it's a frantic time preparing for all my classes & projects & choirs beginning for the year etc.) & it is 1/4 to 2 am here now, my eyes are fighting to stay open in truth so I hope you'll forgive me if I finish here, I'll come back to it asap tomorrow before I am off for the weekend. Ta for your lovely page, I've a few comments to respond to & am looking forward to all of them. Sweet dreams to me & happy day to you I guess Anni May I wish to walk gracefully..... so as not to spill water.
A

Arrow

17 years 4 months ago

Poor linear, short-attention spanned reader that I am

I have trouble with long works. First, the meter: I loved it. It does read like a song with its long flowing lines and plenty of rubato, like the Romantic composers. The content: there are golden lines in here (You with your truth for a crown/& me with my courage, this soft, silken gown/We are the royalty here.; and my personal favorites, A bowl or a vessel. The garden, the foundries./The smithy, you pound on the metal/The sculpter, the pioneer, eager to settle.) What I feel most strongly in this is the disappointment of being an "object" (in the worst sense of that word) of affection - an unruly thing. Those first lines seem to speak of being a thing to be used, constructed, conquered but not known. There is freedom in the sense of doing to things/others without being done to one's self and then there is freedom in the sense of losing one's self. I suppose in love we teeter on this fence. It's this multiplicity of freedoms I get from this poem, esp. given the last line. Whew! This is a lush piece of vegetation.
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 4 months ago

Forgive me it's 2am

Dear Arrow Lovely to find you here, I am just letting you know I am looking forward to responding, but not at 2am again... I need more time so I can spend it on this site!!! & not at rediculaous times of the night! I'll write soon Cheers Anni May I wish to walk gracefully..... so as not to spill water.