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A painter of sunflowers (A senryu)

how he adored them

enough to cut off his ear

but his fame endures

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zarul

17 years 4 months ago

SENRYU

senryu? never heard of it before. mind explaining it to me? short, yet beautiful with beautiful imagery. HUG ZARUL
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

I never mind explaining

senryus, like haikus and tankas, are a Japanese form of poetry based on syllable count per line. As far as I remember, haikus are always about nature (like tankas, of which they originally used to be the opening stanza), while senryus are about humans or human nature. Hoping I got everything right, ID
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RSScheerer

17 years 4 months ago

Ink

You're correct about the haiku carrying a nature theme and the senryu involving humans or human nature. Tankas can be pretty much about anything, especially these days. If you look up the traditional definitions, the rules are probably more strict. I tend to adhere to the haiku and senryu with their syllabic count and themes, but even organizations devoted to both will accept nearly anything as a haiku, senryu, or tanka - which I find a bit disappointing. That said, I like the general idea of your senryu. Van Gogh is one of my favorite artists. I think your poem could say more about him - his mental instability led to his suicide attempts and the drastic move to cut off his own ear. Even with the brevity of a senryu, your second line could reflect that mental torment .... it feels like the piece would be richer if it included more than his love of sunflowers, as it was so much more that led to his self-destructive act. The way it is written right now makes it appear that his love of sunflowers drove him to it - make any sense at all? It's early here and I don't know how coherent I'm being! ~ Ronda
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

You are being coherent

no matter what´s the time. Actually, I think I might have had a song line that implied VanGogh cut his ear off because of the sunflowers in my ear when I wrote this. I´ll try to come up with a second try, but it will, as always, take some time. Love, Ink
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

Not that much time, obviously

I have considered changing it into "how he adored them/were they another reason/ to cut off his ear", but I´m loath to part with my original last line...Let me know what you think... Thanks for pointing out the one-sidedness, Ink
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RSScheerer

17 years 4 months ago

I like either version

The choice is yours, of course. I definitely wouldn't give up the first or last line, though. ~ Ronda
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

Oh Ronda

you point to my exact problem by saying you would not give up lines 1 or 3. Expressing more in just seven syllables about why he cut off his ear? I am not sure if I can do that. Do you have any suggestions? I´d appreciate them, Ink
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barbsdad2003

17 years 4 months ago

I recognized ...

the arrow of your senryu as pointing at VG immediately on first read. Well put, by the way. Just to idle-curious myself, I wonder if he could hear better ... or worse ... postself-surgery. I claim my curiosity as idle only because I'm unwilling to experiment on myself to make the discovery. And because my ears don't exactly mirror one another, the left being placed a little lower on my skull than my right---or is it the reverse?---I don't even know what it'd be like to have each on the level---that is, at true horizontal---with the other. I venture the world'd deliver a different sound if that were so. My bald head of course contributes to the tilted, possibly shameful, esthetics so resulting. But I must confess I've got other deficits that carry even more shame than the external auditory apparati. (I know, I know, the plural of apparatus is apparatuses usually, but I like apparati.) Oh, well, now I bore myself. Not a good thing. As Martha Stewart might say. Thanx, Chuck PS: Your title's plainly a good one. At least in my book. And I do prefer, as you've done here, a sort of sideways reference rather than one front on.
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

Chuck

from one with lop-sided ears to another: I am glad you are back! Thank you for this comment, Ink P.S. Fortunately I have more hair than you do, so my ears don´t show up that much...
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infinite_dwarf

17 years 4 months ago

ID

sorry, became distracted with the whole lopsided ear thing. I have uneven ear piercing, does that count? Though that was due to human stupidity, not genetics. anyway.... Cool mini-tribute to VanGogh. What was the real reason he cut his ear off for? ~Jess K. ---------------------------------------------------- - "Does Rudolph fail the safety inspection if his nose is burnt out? And where does he go? I don't think he'd fit in the bay at the Jiffy Lube." Happy holidays, y'all!
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

Hi Jess

The real reason he cut off his ear? I don´t have a clue, apart from that he had some major psychological problems, obviously... And no, uneven ear-piercing does not count, I´m afraid. After all, you can leave out the earrings and noone will notice, but can I screw my ears off? (Or Chuck for that matter?)*winks* Thanks for reading, ID
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barbsdad2003

17 years 4 months ago

On revisit ...

I spy possible consideration for an alternate version of: how he adored them enough to cut off his ear but his fame endures Given that VG's fame comes from both his talent as artist and as self-surgeon (I assume sans properly administered anesthesia), a change from but to and might hint in that direction, as in: how he adored them enough to cut off his ear and his fame endures Just here a bit of random thought-speck flitting tween ears like a bat at late dusk making like a weirdly mammalian butterfly against the fullest moon in cloudless sky. Or an exposed single minnow in limpid waters (hard to find/imagine in nature nowadays; i.e., waters pellucid/limpid) darting from the fringes to gain a perhaps claustrophobically comforting companionship amongst his/her school. Of fish, I mean. Yours again, Chuck
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

Thank you ever so much, Chuck

both for your thoughtful suggestion and the chuckles I got from reading your comment. I think I´ll have to give this piece some more time to mature... Yours, Ink P.S. Maybe we should start a club? Just people with lop-sided ears? We could compete whose ears are the most uneven...
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barbsdad2003

17 years 4 months ago

It occurred ...

to me that a lopping off of both my ears'd remedy the tilt. On the other hand, I'd be left with scar tissue(s) that'd be as out of level. Oh, well. I'll just have to think more on it. Perhaps I can carry my head at a slant to compensate. Or go in for cosmetic ear augmentation. Chuck PS: I'd perhaps welcome the start of a club; but it'd be just my luck the membership dues'd be prohibitive in this/my down(ed) economy.
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

I found myself unable to go to sleep

without looking up the "real" reason why VG cut off his ear. So I looked it up in my books (yes, with me it´s always "books" in the plural), and it would seem he did so after an argument with his friend and room mate Gauguin. Later, VG was diagnosed as suffering from "acute mania with acoustic and optical hallucinations and occasionally reoccurring epileptic fits". He spent a year in an asylum... Still wondering how to make all this information fit into seven syllables, ID
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RSScheerer

17 years 4 months ago

I thought you knew

He was a tortured man. A quick trip through history seems to prove that some of the most talented artists suffered from mental disorders of one type or another ... actually, still seems to be the case! As for fitting it all into seven syllables, I trust you will find a way. ~ Ronda
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

Well,

I did know he was a tortured man, as you put it, but I still cannot imagine what triggered this move...Upon rereading his biography, I found a couple of things that struck me as possible reasons: 1- He was not a successful painter during his lifetime ( He had to rely on his brother´s financial support), 2- He never had a relationship with any known woman, and it has been said that he felt a deep longing for love, 3- He painted the sunflowers for Gauguin (What does this imply, if we consider the fact that he mutilated himself as a direct consequence of an argument with Gauguin, who did not retuen to their house that night?), 4- He described himself as suffering from mood swings (Were they an early sign of his disease?) The most important question for me is: Was he really mad? Or was he just one of those artists who always were one step ahead of time they lived in, and consequently misunderstood? I keep thinking about all these questions, Ink
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RSScheerer

17 years 4 months ago

Good catch

The implications of Van Gogh's relationship with Gauguin have long been a source of controversy. I do not believe he was insane, but I do believe that he suffered from one or two of the commonly known mental disorders we have come to understand over the years. This made me think ... you have heard Don McLean's song, "Starry Starry Night" ... haven't you? Hmm. Not sure if you would have. Okay, now I'm thinking aloud ... or typing to myself. Perhaps I am the mad one! As I've said, you'll work around this until you're satisfied. In the meantime, you're learning quite a bit about the life of a fascinating man! ~ Ronda
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

I have looked up the song

and it is quite a coincidence that one of my books about VG is about that painting. The author claims that VG was not mad, but in fact a realist who tried to capture what he actually saw in this painting, and he has gone to some lengths to prove it... Ronda, if you are mad, so am I. I keep thinking about VGs relationship to Gauguin (who happens to be another favourite painter of mine), and have begun to think VG might have fallen to pieces because he was in love with Gauguin, and this love was unrequited.In this line of thought, I see even more reasons for him to go mad, because back then, homosexuality would have been regarded as a capital sin, and VG was religious. And of course, he would have been a sensitive person with a vivid imagination, as you can easily see when looking at his paintings... Maybe it takes a certain frame of mind to be an artist? Now I´m ranting, Ink
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Arrow

17 years 4 months ago

An irony of this poem for me

is that today, instead of being famous DESPITE the bizarre behavior (cutting off a portion of his ear), he would probably be famous BECAUSE of it. I thought he cut off a portion of his ear to give to a woman. Ronda set you a hard task to fit his complicated life into this form. Maybe: sunflowers, stars and ears, gifts of tortured senses let his fame endure or something to indicate that love creates, destroys and endures. I'm not sure how to write this kind of poetry so sorry I can't be of more help.
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

Arrow

Thank you for this philosophical comment and your suggestions. You´re right about 1-he´d be famous because of it and 2- it´s a hard task. It will take some more thinking, ID
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Ink Dragon

17 years 4 months ago

Done with thinking

or so I think...I have decided to leave this senryu alone, because "how he adored them" can stand as a euphemism for how much he loved Gauguin, and those who do not understand that can read all the volumes of comments this one has entailed... Again, thank you all for your thoughts on this short poem, Ink
seabhac

seabhac

16 years 7 months ago

As a lover of Van Goughs work

This I got immediately. I love it just the way it is We naturally fill in the unsaid with our own words ( depending on which books on VG we have read ) A great write Seabhac
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Ink Dragon

16 years 7 months ago

Seabhac,

thank you for your encouraging and insightful comment. I love the idea of a reader who fills in the blanks, that is exactly what I am writing for, to make people think. Yours, ~Nina