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in private, and without anyone's knowing ...


in private, and without
anyone's knowing ...


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[l]adybird, ladybird,
[f]ly away home,
[y]our house is on fire
[a]nd your children all gone

                                        ---nursery rhyme
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at 17, I asked my father
to leave my mother;

he did not

perhaps a year later,
and without my then knowing,
my younger brother asked of him,
in private, the same;

again he did not

years later, again without my knowing,
my even younger sister asked of him,
in private, the same;
whereupon he slapped her face---

and leave my mother he did not

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I wonder whether parents
ever know their children ....


                                           ---Markandaya

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Mark

Mark

17 years 9 months ago

lol hell no

or yes they know their children - CHILDREN but the adult hmm I really think not rofl. BTW how'd ya know :) I like this poem it is a thinker for me. Mark
Mark

Mark

17 years 9 months ago

IC

No disrespect meant, Chuck. We never knew this in my family so blind as a bat I feel a bit like a rat (or low). I am sorry for not seeing behind this but I certainly do now and appreciate the "slap up the side of the head" It seems a bit unusual as I always expect the up beat (as I see it) in your writing and that was where my attitude hung (in it's usual happy place) when I read this. Mark
Candlewitch

Candlewitch

17 years 9 months ago

Chuck

I find it interesting that he should do nothing when the boys make their request, but slap the girl when she asks the same. Parents and children only know the other when they make the effort to do so, IMHO. (of course, there are no guarantees that they will like what they get to know.) Always, Cat
Barbara Writes

Barbara Writes

17 years 9 months ago

with you on that Cat

Smiles:) Barbara i know my kids the good and bad, and they also know i am there for them with correction when i see a need to.
B

barbsdad2003

17 years 9 months ago

Cat, I'm so glad ...

you so noticed (and made mention of) his singling out of the girl of the three children to slap. I think (in fact, I'm pretty sure of it) the implication(s) of your observation holds merit. A sad aspect of this is that he caused my sis a sharp pain that sat astride the pain she already (had) experienced, most certainly of long duration, that brought her to the point of making such a request. And mind you, she did not know of the identical request made by me and later by my brother, both of us having done so before she did. I was years into adulthood before verbal childhood notes were compared to reveal to the three of us siblings that each had asked of him the same. I suspect, in addition, that he slapped my sister at least in part because he fought his own temptation to acquiesce to the (now third time) request---and objected to his children supporting that aspect of himself (and of course, being a minister, perhaps his child became a stand-in for Satan, and so he slapped Satan). And surely three of his four living children suggesting such a thing to him ... well, perhaps---just perhaps---their requests held merit. Probably in line with many if not most other parents of the time, my father found it much easier to resent his children than to learn about them ... and that especially without censoring. And I acknowledge that we all censor, but here I'm talking about a particularly heavy censor's stamp as applied by him to/against us. Thanx, Chuck PS: Let me add, the request by each of us was a serious one that surfaced for each of us in turn after years of suffering ... and was not made amidst the impulsive heat of an anger provoked by some small matter. I hope my comment here casts up a greater clarity, a one that prompts perhaps a bit more fibrous chewing. My thanx to all.
Candlewitch

Candlewitch

17 years 9 months ago

Chuck

Thanks for the added information. It certainly clears up a lot of my unasked questions and at the same time leaves much to think about. The fact that he was a minister is just plain creepy and cringe worthy. It brings up memories of torture by my religious fanatic Greanmother. Always, Cat
B

barbsdad2003

17 years 9 months ago

Thanx, Cat ...

for the personal sharing/note ... and as to the third sentence of your comment in particular, I agree. Yours, Chuck
Mark

Mark

17 years 9 months ago

Good point Cat

and I suppose a lot depends on how many children as well :) Mark
infinite_dwarf

infinite_dwarf

17 years 9 months ago

Chuck

I'm scratching my head with the rest of the group, Chuck. Very cool, and especially liked the quote at the end, as it seemed to be a very nice closing. Well done. ~Jess K. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The toilets at a local police station have been stolen. Police say they have nothing to go on..." - Ronnie Barker
themoonman

themoonman

17 years 9 months ago

Hi Chuck...

Well I'm not scratching.. it sounds like my childhood.. my father was a tyrant.. but he never did leave.. both good and bad.. my mother suffered from his verbal abuse forever... and she never would leave.. finally after almost dying he made a slight change because he needed us... I may have read this wrong Chuck.. if I did .. tell me.. Richard
B

barbsdad2003

17 years 9 months ago

As not unexpected ...

by me, Richard, you got it just fine. And thanx. Chuck PS: See my comment above in further reply to Cat.
RSScheerer

RSScheerer

17 years 9 months ago

in private, and without anyone's knowing

I will confess to reading the poem twice, then moving on to read the comments. A piece like this draws a different view from each reader, and I was curious what others thought. The fact that it was the daughter who got the most serious response out of him caught my attention as well. As Cat mentioned, being a minister adds another weight to the entire situation. Different from your usual work, but you still conveyed that emotion and depth of thought that makes your reader think as well. Best, ~ Ronda
Janice Pearce

Janice Pearce

17 years 9 months ago

Chuck

To lead in with this particular nursery rhyme was brilliant! This pulled me in. Great piece, and a different kind of writing from you left me breathless. It's sometimes the secrets in childhood that turn out to be the jewels! Nicely done~
B

barbsdad2003

17 years 9 months ago

Besides my two of three siblings ...

having prior knowledge of this matter are my wife and ... who knows. I've kept it much to myself. And now it's addressed in plain view---and in poetic form, by gosh!---for others to see. It can be a pain to keep stale skeletons in the back of the closet ... and a relief to take out and dust one or two off every so often. My thanx, Chuck