ABORTION

do you bomb abortitions centres? Do you murder the caring doctors for allowing young girls to remove a fetus inpregnated by rape? I depise this fundamentalist hating bullshit as much as I hate terrorist bombs, No respect at all. Jess

I actually feel compelled to respond to both the poem, and Jess' post here. Forgive me on stepping on any toes gang, but I thought I'd throw my two cents in, take it or leave it. I'm taking the title at face value and assuming that this indeed about the abortion procedure, and not an allusion to something else. I sense alot of anger in this write, but I'm not sure if I sense personal anger or "abortion is bad so therefore I am angry" kind of anger. And you know what, ellis? It is bad, it is repugnant, one of the great evils of our world. A true crime against humanity and God. I empathize with you, but hold on a second... Why is it evil? Simply because we're told is evil? That takes the real humanity out of it, the tragedy out of it. Any murder, be it abortion, homicide, suicide, war, etc. seems to be boiled down to the statistic of "this is how many people are killed each year." Of course, this tells you nothing of the human story. Each person, born and unborn, past, present, and future is a history that affects those around them, and even distantly. to end a life for any reason does grave potential damage to the surrounding people for years, if not an entire history to come. The true tragedy of abortion is the we've boiled it down to a "choice." To me, the term is insulting. Don't get me wrong, I make a clear distinction between a victim of rape or incest, and using abortion as birth control or because a woman doesn't feel a child fits into her life. I have known women who have had reasons for both, and have been good friends with one who made that choice. And here, here is the humanity part. Her making that choice didn't stop me being that woman's friend, ellis. Why? How much has our culture failed women when they see no other option than this hideous crime? On a whole, from pro - choicers, to pro - lifers we have boiled down this issue to a statistical one vs. a "God hates you" one. If God hates women who've had abortions, woe to me and everyone else on this planet. For trust me, we've f*cked up quite fine on our own, we have all sinned. Whether you are pro life or pro choice, I urge you above all things to remember the human cost, the human connection to all of this. I empathize with anyone who has been victimized or brutalized, but as a closing let me tell you a true story, one that I've never shared with anyone and only do so here because we are all semi anonymous: My mother was a career prostitute and a woman of very little means. My second oldest sister is the product of my mother's pimp raping her. I only found this out last year from my other sister. My mother could have, maybe in the eyes of the world, should have had an abortion. And then what? This lovely woman I know as my sister and I would never have had the opportunity to know each other, to grow. I can tell you that my sister has made valuable, valuable contribitions to the world, to my family. Should she not have been allowed that chance? I tell you that life, life and love are the greatest gifts from a generous God. It is not our place, under any circumstance to determine if it is a life worth living. I believe that for abortion, the death penalty, war, crime, etc. Thanks for letting me rant. God bless both of you, Mark W.

to there own opinion I do believe that, but I also believe no one has the right to judge another! Until you are or have been in their shoes you never know what choices you will make until it is happening to you! Trust me I know a great deal about this subject. Does this poem mean that God does not love me or I am condemmed to Hell because I was in a bad situation? I do not believe so,I believe God works with us as individuals just as I have three children and I love them all the same but I know they are different and I treat their feelings as such. I know life is precious but who is to say that I would have done the right thing by my baby not loving its father and him having mental issues{turning the car off on the highway at 60 miles on hour} with my other baby in the car at the time. I knew at the time what was right for me. Sorry now? Yes but I can't take it back and I will not give up on the rest of my life or not speak about it to please someone else no matter what their views are.GOOD DAY!

Judge not lest ye be judged, oh thats right right we can't be judged on this subject because it is not an option we have as men; we will never have to make that ultimate choice; we have about as much right to an opinion as a woman has in telling us to have a vasectomy to prevent getting a women pregnant in the first place.

I sincerely hope you will fuck off from this site forever. I read your obscene comment about justifying beating a woman and you are just getting worse. Go away. with deepest disrespect just fuck off. Jess

With tears and limitless a n g e r on this society well written and conveyed what you have wish to say congrats sakthee