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Dry-Gulch Billabong

Dry-Gulch Billabong

billabong = Aboriginal ... from
billa water + bang channel dry
except after rain
 

          ---Oxford Dict. of Foreign
                   Words and Phrases

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I felt sweet shadow’s shade
Come promptly to my aid

When out of sun’s strong rays
I did hie 

By and by—
And that! headlong— 

From dry-gulch billabong
To that selfsame cooling shade.

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billabong = (1861): 1 Austral
a: a blind channel leading out
from a river b: a usu. dry stream-
bed that is filled seasonally 
    

                 
---Webster's Collegiate 
          Dictionary Eleventh Edition

Australian ... 2. a creek bed
holding water only in the rainy
season;
a dried-up watercourse

       ---dictionary.factmonster.com/
                                            billabong

Australian ... 2. A streambed filled
with water only in the rainy season

     ---American Heritage Dictionary
 

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weirdelf

weirdelf

18 years 10 months ago

Culture clash here, mate

Billabongs are ponds formed by the cut off loop of a river, not found in dry-gulchs. It may seem pedantic, but one would generally hie to one for selfsame cooling shade. Hence the "jolly swagman camped out by a billabong, under the shade of a coolabah tree" cheers, Jess
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barbsdad2003

18 years 10 months ago

Drier Version

I know Waltzing Matilda. I was referring to this definition (and drier condition!): a usually dry streambed that is filled seasonally (Merriam-Webster). I'm pretty good at doing my research first. Thanx! Chuck
weirdelf

weirdelf

18 years 10 months ago

beg to disagree with the esteemed Merriam and Webster

in common usage, and it is an Australian word, billabongs are the last to go dry. Don't want to be pedantic or argumentative, Chuck, and respecting your research, if not your source, but M-W got it wrong. cheers, Jess
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barbsdad2003

18 years 10 months ago

No Pedantry

And you can also disagree with the world's leading geologists who study billabongs in both their wet and dry states. Dr. Russell Shiel, as just one example of many, studies Australia's Murray-Darling Basin to discover thousands of species in the sediments between floodings. It often takes quite a while before the dry-gulch billabongs fill again with water. When a billabong dries up, you don't stop calling it a billabong; it's just a dry billabong in a resting state, and I handled the situation with my modifier. I appreciate that you are more familiar with the common usage in your area. Australian words are also used outside Australia. Your local familiarity doesn't make you an expert in all usages of the word. It doesn't make Merriam-Webster wrong. It doesn't make me wrong. No poet should be restricted by common usage when a lesser known usage supplies a rich resource for rich verse. As you can tell, I am attracted to the less common. I have to stand my ground. Chuck
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barbsdad2003

17 years 9 months ago

Another question:

Since Webster's is commonly recognized by Americans as a/the preeminent standard for spelling, and perhaps for its definitions as well, why would an American disagree with it? Billabong is an English/American word found in English/American dictionaries. Just as is dissension/dissention. Both billabong and dissension/dissention derive from sources foreign to English, the former from Australian Aborigines of a certain locale, the latter from ancient mother Latin. And so what?! You can counterclaim that all you want, Jess. I'd rather subscribe to accepted authority. You are not an accepted authority ... on either billabong or dissension/dissention. You manufacture but another faux (another English/American word, though deriving/being captured from the more original French) argument. At least you're being consistent, since that is, after all, your style, a common, highly predictable behavior of yours. English, as are all other languages on the planet (at least to some degree), is alive and lives in a state of constant flux, of evolution. It is not isolated and living hermitlike on a desert island ... one even perhaps the size of all Australia. Yours, Chuck
Rett

Rett

17 years 9 months ago

Man o man

I just thought I was stubborn. *L* This has been a very good argument my friends. I have thoroughly enjoyed the arguments on both sides. You both raised very good points and I learned something I didn't know. Very well presented on both parts. Kudos to both of you. This would make one hell of an epic poem. hmm, wonder if it really could be made into an epic... no no (slaps own hand), Very respectively, Rett: "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." Winston Churchill
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barbsdad2003

17 years 9 months ago

You play well ...

the diplomat here, Rett. And thanx, by the way, for that. From my point of view, however, the only way Jess can be considered to have raised very good points re billabong is if the facts are filtered from consideration. And thanx for commenting. Yours, Chuck PS: You might enjoy my questions appearing on this page re the meaning/significance of my wife's calling me a billabong (should she do so).
Barbara Writes

Barbara Writes

17 years 9 months ago

I must say

Smiles:) Barbara I enjoyed this much, learn a lot about billabong I won't be forgetting I like to write short pieces about new words I learn, hope you don't mind. Dry Billabong It rests in dry seasons--- by the river of Australia, a maiden waits.
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barbsdad2003

17 years 9 months ago

A billabong ...

can be dry ... or wet. Weirdelf insists it can only be wet. Why can't he accept the whole definition of the word? Never mind. Don't answer. I already know why. Thanx, Chuck
infinite_dwarf

infinite_dwarf

17 years 9 months ago

lol

I have a cool dragon shirt from Billabong. Just trying to be difficult... lol! Nice write here, Chuck. Me likey. ~Jess K. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "As I was going up the stair, I met a man who was not there, he wasn't there again today, I wish that man would go away!"
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barbsdad2003

17 years 9 months ago

I pose ...

a hypothetical here: If my wife calls me a billabong, is she being complimentary? perhaps even affectionate? is she flirting with me? and if not, why not? Yours, Chuck