Rottiestyl

Jun 16, 2007 ⭐ View statistics (Premium feature)

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About This Poem

About the Author

Region, Country: USA - Illinois, USA

Favorite Poets: Shakespeare, Emily Dickinson, Edgar Allen Poe

Comments

Rottiestyl

18 years 10 months ago

Hate to burst your bubble

Hate to burst your bubble Joe, I mean your review was so well penned and thought out afterall. Your down slopes on others poetry must use alot of energy. But I can save you some time. I write whatever comes to mind. This poem was RAMBLING. It had a meaning which your keen senses did not pick up (I thought the verses pretty much said it, but thats just me)but all in all it was called "fun" poetry Joe. Nothing special, nothing deep. . .just nonsense. Oh, and the "tone" was not ignorance is bliss, it was simply, if you give away everything you have learned and used to become successful you take a chance of someone using it against you. That's not ignorance, it's smart business.

Rottiestyl

18 years 10 months ago

Joe, You come across as a

Joe, You come across as a very arrogant person. This is not a knock on you or to you, but an observation from not just reviews you have given me, after all I am blessed with a hard outer shell, but some of others who were simply expressing their poetic thoughts. Let me use one of my fav. examples. You want realism, you want exact, your want truth and actuality. Green eggs and ham do not exist Joe. If you have seen them then its time to clean out your frig. Don't say that it's a children poem therefore, it's allowed. Not true. If truth and realism and making "sense" are what you are reading others work for then I suggest you go out and buy some of Aldof Hitlers poetry. It probably won't get any more real than that. This is a place for EXPRESSION.You say Emily Dickinson was insane, therefore in your eyes her poetry was allowed to be "different". Different from what? you? To answer your ridiculous question, No I do not "puffery" you really need to come up with a new word, you over use that in your reviewing. You asked one person if they used a cookie cutter to write poems with. exactly what kind of critique is that? It was nothing short of rude, obnoxious, "look at me, i'm better than you" drivel. You can review anyway you like, but be perpared to recieve a comment back about your review you will not like. I, Joe am a writer. A published writer. I am an artist,a mother of five and Joe, the way you spout your education and your college "learnins" I spelled that like that on purpose, and how your college instructor (they like to be called Dr. or professor) would roll over if some of these poor people would dare to turn their work in the way they posted it, you will appreciate the fact that I, am a high school DROP OUT. Two weeks into my Sophmore year. I only went to college for two years at the age of 33 because my girls, I was a single parent, were embarrassed that we were low income. I only have 161 course hrs. and a certificate in Autocad of which I spent the last 17 years creating land surveys for real estate closings and lost my job of 17 yrs. after putting up with the very same arrogant bullshit you hand out here. I put up with it then, I will no longer. So the writings you see from me were not learned from a professor, instructor or Dr of any kind. Just from living. So you see Joe, all you "education" has taught you nothing of importance except how to look down your nose. That my friend can be a lonely trait to have. I am curious to know about your publishing credits. There is absolutely no editor or publisher that I am aware of and have dealt with that would tolerate the way you come across. Questioning a work is fine, hacking it apart like some broken nosed, four fingered, one tooth, chainsaw weilding, flat footed forest frump is not. I would perfer you just be human. Have a great day. K. Mulroney

Conect11

18 years 10 months ago

wow, K.

I really hate to do this to you, you actually seem pretty talented, but you seemed to dive right in to the very thing you just accused Joe of doing, and that's ugly. So you were published? Big deal, so have most of us on this site. Congratulations on your five children, I hope they provide you joy and inspiration. But do not, do not attack another writer because you did not like his review of your work. I mean this as respectfully as I can, but your reply smacked of arrogance. You actually took the time to research Joe's replies to other people in order to formulate your response. Wow. Welcome to the site, but have a touch of humility before you go attacking other writers because you don't like their reviews. Get to know Joe, and you'll find him to be very cool and helpful to you. God bless you, take care, and welcome to neopoet.

Rottiestyl

18 years 10 months ago

First of all you are a

First of all you are a friend of Joes I have seen the reviews he has given you and you him. There is a difference between a constructive review and total annihilation. I suppose it makes you and him look better to believe that I "researched" his reviews of others. I know it would never occur to either one of you that I was actually trying to read SOMEONE ELSES work. It appears to be a struggle to find a poem that he hasn't ripped apart. My first instinct when reading those was to rip back at him for the other poet. Sad to say, I must let others fight for themselves. It's their work and they need to find the passion to defend it. I do not appreciate you keeping a private disagreement in REVIEW STYLE (you might want to look that up) going. I am sure with Joes sharp tongue that he can hold his own, since obviously it would appear that somehow, by submitting my work to this site I am the bad guy. Minding my own business and simply trying to share my work with others. I will say this. Please stay here. . Both of you. Because your Kill em nasty and quick attitudes of other people work is not wanted and will not be tolerated anyway where else. If you can not review in an intelligent, and CONSTRUCTIVE way, then stay here where apparently there are alot of people who are intimidated by your bitter phrases. I could have said. . Joe, you do not understand the poem because you are a moron. Instead, I asked him to be human. Damn, how DARE I! LOL! I reviewed several of his, I said on one that IF THE POEM WERE MINE, I would get rid of the first stanza because it was corny and took anyway from the great writing of the other two. The poem could stand on its own without that stanza. THAT is called CONSTRUCTIVE reviewing. Not a PERSONAL ATTACK. I could have said his eyes are like moons?? How first grade can you get? Get rid of the grade school writing and stick to grown up metaphors. That would have been something Joe and apparently you would have said. Thank you for the "Good for you" On being published. I appreciate it! HARD work does pay off, hard nosed slime filled envy. . .does not. The only one who needs humility here is Joe, thus my appeal to him to simply review as a human. Humility, human, get the connection? By the way , thanks for the welcome, I am sure I will enjoy my stay! K. Mulroney

Conect11

18 years 10 months ago

wow

wow, Kim, you really put me in my place! lol. I think you might what to take your advice because you just continued this "private" disagreement, which I would like to point out you made very public, not me. But that's alright, I will not try to make any more points to you because quite frankly people like you are so entrenched in your thinking you can not take any constructive advice. Am I Joe friend? Actually, I've never met the man, but I can tell you he is a far more reasonable person then you are. But I didn't come here to get into arguments, and I certainly didn't come here to get into dick measuring contests with other users over anybody's "accomplishments" because what you, I, or anybody else did in the past doesn't mean a thing. As far as staying here goes, I am actually welcome at a number of poetry sites. I tend to go for the places with constructive advice, like here and anylit. I'm not a big fan of the sites that blow smoke up writer's asses, like the author's den. I DO hope you will enjoy your stay. As for the original reason I clicked on your poem, I had intended to read it, and review it. But I grew disinterested after a very short time. As I did with all of your poems I read. You can go ahead and feel I am saying this as "Joe's friend," or you can fluff me off, hey it's only my opinion, but your writing is absolute insipid drivel, and I felt that before I read a single one of your comments, or your arrogant profile. And to be honest, it's great that you've "copyrighted" your poems, (bit of advice, Kim, actually send in the $40 to get them copyrighted. Just saying they are doesn't count) but just speaking for me I can't think of any reason why you would need to. Ok, now that I've sunk to your level I can't say I feel any better, but I've gotten those things off my chest. Can't wait for your long winded and rambling reply to defend your ego. God Bless, Mark

Rottiestyl

18 years 10 months ago

Simple people, simple minds.

Simple people, simple minds. Now go look in the mirror and smile. You have done a great job of showing your superiority. Oh, and thank you for your "honest" review of my work. . lol!..I can see you are a true and "honest" person. Great traits to have, I must say. If you can't stand someone sticking up for themselves then you might want to try and bully another. You will never skin me, my friend. Drivel? yes. Great stuff right! You felt the need to step in where you were not welcome. This was between Joe and I AND his reviewing style. You want to show you can be gutter but I will not play the game. Cut and paste is wonderful thing isn't it? I am writing a new poem to put on my website asking people to join Neopoet. It's going to interesting, to say the least. Thanks again! K. Mulroney

Conect11

18 years 10 months ago

I'm

ending the game right now you claim not to play. Please do invite more people here, we would love to see some fresh faces and writers, all are welcome. Have a blessed day. :) Mark

Rottiestyl

18 years 10 months ago

Finally a kind sentence.

Finally a kind sentence. Thank you Mark, I am working on an invite as we speak. I am sure they will appreciate all the enthusiasm here. Thanks for the welcome, it's been interesting. K. Mulroney

Rottiestyl

18 years 10 months ago

One more thing. ALL my work

One more thing. ALL my work is actually sitting in the Library of Congress. It is more than .40. It's actually 130.00 per package you send. It takes abouth 2 to three months and is copyrighted as a collection. Just a little useful info for you. Serious writers copyright their work. Wasn't sure if you knew that. p.s. the new postal rate is .41 not .40, you may owe a penny. Have great day. K. Mulroney

Rottiestyl

18 years 10 months ago

I will give you a list of

I will give you a list of publishers to submit to Joe. All of which I have had work published in. I am always willing to help out another writer. But without the attacks. Maybe it's just your way, but I am here to tell you, that kind of reviewing does me absolutely no good. I am sure you already know when submitting work, You need to read all guidelines first. Every site and magazine are different. Keep your email /letter short. Tell them you are submitting whatever no. poems and that you know how busy editors/publishers are and appreciate the time they take. That you hope they find something enclosed that is of interest to them. Wish them a great day, week, month(which ever trips your trigger, no pun intended, my dad was a cop)and sign it. At top of the page include your name, address, phone no., email (very important to send them your email!!) and some want the titles of the owrk but not all. These are a few of the places that I am regularly published at: Events Quarterly Magazine, Shadow Poetry( they have a monthly chap book and magazine as well as resident poets)Cynic Magazine, Urbanesque Magazine, A Darker Vision e-zine, Fuller Experimental. I am going to give you a web site of a personal friend of mine who is editor and chief, but I warn you, she will not deal with any arrogance. NONE. She owns and runs a website and monthly print magazine from France. I am appearing in this months issue. She is a wonderful person and if you have what she is looking for and she has a wide variety, she will print you. She is also a writer on Authors Den where my main website is. The link is: http://www.la-fenetre.net. You do have talent Joe. Never give up trying. I am turned down daily as well. Just makes me want to be a better writer. Als, if accepted, please send an email back thanking them. Have a wonderful Daddy's Day! K. Mulroney

Rottiestyl

18 years 10 months ago

There is never really a

There is never really a reason why they reject. My experience has proven that the most mundane piece will be loved! I wrote a poem called THE JEEBIES and not only was it published on line, but in their top 25 best poems of 2006 print addition. I was flabbergasted. That poem was funny, but not what even I would have consider the best of. So all I can say is make the first line grab their throats, funny, sad, powerhouse stuff. I have also learned that the titles are a big thing. I know I look for different and interesting titles. In my opinion, reviews mean something on a novel. Not poetry unless it's a book. Poetry is so very personal. Not everyone likes it. Hell, I still talk to people who say poetry is not poetry if it doesn't rhyme. Oh, well, try those places I gave you and see what happens. If you are turned down keep sending them. I bet I sent Cynic Mag. a 100 pieces. They picked out The Jeebies. Go figure. Have a great Joe. K. Mulroney