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weirdelf
By weirdelf, 10 September, 2016
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Program description/goal

Description: A quick exercise in Critique

Leader: weirdelf (Jess)
Moderator(s): Volunteers please.

Objectives: To practice giving constructive feedback on bad poetry.

Level of expertise: Open to all

Subject matter: This is widely regarded as one of the worst poems of all time. For this workshop simply pretend that it has been posted by a Neopoet member and write a critique.
We will then critique each others critiques.

The Tay Bridge Disaster
by William McGonagall

Beautiful Railway Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay!
Alas! I am very sorry to say
That ninety lives have been taken away
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

’Twas about seven o’clock at night,
And the wind it blew with all its might,
And the rain came pouring down,
And the dark clouds seem’d to frown,
And the Demon of the air seem’d to say-
“I’ll blow down the Bridge of Tay.”

When the train left Edinburgh
The passengers’ hearts were light and felt no sorrow,
But Boreas blew a terrific gale,
Which made their hearts for to quail,
And many of the passengers with fear did say-
“I hope God will send us safe across the Bridge of Tay.”

But when the train came near to Wormit Bay,
Boreas he did loud and angry bray,
And shook the central girders of the Bridge of Tay
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

So the train sped on with all its might,
And Bonnie Dundee soon hove in sight,
And the passengers’ hearts felt light,
Thinking they would enjoy themselves on the New Year,
With their friends at home they lov’d most dear,
And wish them all a happy New Year.

So the train mov’d slowly along the Bridge of Tay,
Until it was about midway,
Then the central girders with a crash gave way,
And down went the train and passengers into the Tay!
The Storm Fiend did loudly bray,
Because ninety lives had been taken away,
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

As soon as the catastrophe came to be known
The alarm from mouth to mouth was blown,
And the cry rang out all o’er the town,
Good Heavens! the Tay Bridge is blown down,
And a passenger train from Edinburgh,
Which fill’d all the peoples hearts with sorrow,
And made them for to turn pale,
Because none of the passengers were sav’d to tell the tale
How the disaster happen’d on the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time.

It must have been an awful sight,
To witness in the dusky moonlight,
While the Storm Fiend did laugh, and angry did bray,
Along the Railway Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay,
Oh! ill-fated Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay,
I must now conclude my lay
By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay,
That your central girders would not have given way,
At least many sensible men do say,
Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
At least many sensible men confesses,
For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed.

Length
14.00 days
Number of participants (limit)
50.00 people
Skill level
Date
-
Short description
Have a free shot at a terrible poem.
weirdelf

weirdelf

9 years 7 months ago

Jump right in!

Even before I've added you to the participants list you can post your critique and start critiquing others' critiques via replies.

Barbara Writes

Barbara Writes

9 years 7 months ago

I'm in

Though I'm mentally exhausted I'll try. My critique needs tuning

Sparrow

Sparrow

9 years 7 months ago

Jess

Add me to the list of participants, I am at the moment very busy with a few problems so my critique will be delayed.
The poem was bad so I will need a little time to give a good comment.
Take care my Bru, Yours as always Ian.

lovedly

lovedly

9 years 7 months ago

,

BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI

Sparrow

Sparrow

9 years 7 months ago

The Tay Bridge Disaster by William McGonagall

This poem was to my mind written in a way where though the theme may have been good,
The author degraded the loss of so many people, and the incompetence of the designer, to a prosy type of write to make this tragedy into a rhyming, what I would term as childlike poetry. Even at my level of writing I would hope that I could write this better to mean something to the reader, where the people that lost their lives could be remembered with respect,
Yours Ian.T

Sparrow

Sparrow

9 years 7 months ago

Mark

Sorry I was back in 1880 and the critique was on that poet not one of our new writers, when I have time I will amend and write as I would for a new poet.
This one just annoyed me in his way of writing..
Had it been a newby my critique would have been much softer..
Yours Ian.

Sparrow

Sparrow

9 years 7 months ago

William

Firstly welcome to Neopoet, here we learn to write and our workshops are excellent, the critique you receive will aid your learning.
As we are hard in some critique please remember we are all learning
A great theme but the way you have written it is coming over as cold, the rhymes and play with words seems to have sidestepped the feelings of those left behind.
Try to feel the way they felt as their loved ones perished.
We don't have to be soft on the words but we are dealing with real people..
Take care when writing that you separate fact from fiction,
Not sure how old you are but the simplicity of some lines could do with a gentler approach, just keep writing.
Read some of the classics and modern poetry there you will find mostly the tops in poetic writing, but they had to start somewhere,
Yours Ian.T.

Esker

Esker

9 years 7 months ago

reading over bacon and grits..

william..I tend to find the use of Tay
a tad repetitive old sport.
otherwise the rest is a remarkable
note of the great railroad malady!

THANK u!

Sparrow

Sparrow

9 years 7 months ago

Steve

The word malady in your critique seems to be strange, as it describes an illness.
The Tay Rail bridge was a disaster as was this poem, I did put on my early comment a rundown of the disaster and what happened.
Due to bad construction, and the weather at the time, it destroyed the bridge, the people on the train were all killed, it was one of the worst rail disasters the UK has had in its history.
Hope you don't mind me saying about malady..
Yours as always.. Ian.

William Saint George

William Saint George

9 years 7 months ago

Add me Jess

Here's my critique of this:

The first thing to note is, Jess introduced this as "widely regarded as one of the worst poems of all time." Which already forces me to look at it uniquely. Which is unfair from the start, but not entirely avoidable in the real world.

The poem suffers from very poor use of rhyme to convey the story. It easily reminds me of some of my earlier work that still makes me cringe. The poet, in trying to rhyme, sacrifices the power of the narrative and ruins it as much as the storm ruined the bridge and train and men.

"Beautiful Railway Bridge of the Silv’ry Tay!
Alas! I am very sorry to say
That ninety lives have been taken away
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember’d for a very long time."

The train wreck begins in line two, which feels so out of spirit with what you'd expect from a tragic poem that it might inspire laughter. Lines three and four work well, but the poem dies again in the last line of the first verse.

Generally, the work, if it was done by someone known for excellent poetry, could pass as a parody of poetry. The fact that this isn't intended as a parody is quite unfortunate.

Esker

Esker

9 years 7 months ago

negligence is an illness

engineers...the constructors were ill in their logic of structure
until over time they got it straight
But...nature wins..eventually..
its supposed too...

We had a bridge collapse in Ontario
Nipigon....Loosened bolts and
something about the design
Modern world and a simple thing
like a bridge falls down

go figure....

guess they were Ill..

I think William...U mention the word
Tay...to stay stuck in peoples minds
My earlier comment on your
well structured work was that
U mentioned it too many times...
But funny....Your poem
stays very vivid in memory
the frequency of the repetition
so great!

thank U!

and Thank U Ian

!

weirdelf

weirdelf

9 years 6 months ago

onya

thanks friend,
we let our own stuff get in the way.

weirdelf

weirdelf

9 years 6 months ago

Great so far, I appreciate all input

Will wait a little while to see if anyone else joins in then close this workshop.
We need to be willing and able to offer suggestions.
It is wrong to suggest that any attempt at poetry is beyond critique.

Sparrow

Sparrow

9 years 6 months ago

To some

that need to comment on the Tay Bridge Disaster poem, have I to remind you of a few things:-
The Grisly bear does not snap at the wolf.
The dingo does not snap at the Inland taipan
They treat each other with respect, and know that there is a place for everything to coexist.
This is going to have a good reply as all we have here is the Adder and wild cat to contend with but if the hat fits wear it with pride.
That's the end to this, good workshop it has produced a great response from a good cross section (cross being the underlying word)
Remember to love all you meet it may give you Brownie points for later, and know that I love you all if you are lonely,
Yours Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti..

weirdelf

weirdelf

9 years 6 months ago

Cross tempers happen

Seldom with such vitriol.
I'm learning and trying to make amends for when I fail.
Some of us new to actual critique over-react.
We can all learn and be brave for the sake of others.

fink555

fink555

8 years 10 months ago

The

alliteration is clunky, the assonance is off, everything about it reads like a List Poem while trying to be something else. It is bad.

S

scribbler

8 years 10 months ago

well......

I Did like the build/ killed rhyme. But far too many of the end line rhymes were repeated far too many times...................stan